What is a really good quality brand. I'm fixing to buy one, so let me know. I would like to buy from motomummy, but if there is a better kind somewhere else I will get it.
i got my set up here http://www.hardracing.com/Sprockets/Sprockets.htm i got the DID X-ring racing chain with vortex -1/+2. I would recommend going with that only b/c its what i run and i love it, im sure plenty people will gave you the same opinion on what they own.
vortex are ptfe coated, not hard anodized. We won't sell them as hard anodizing make sthem much stronger. ptfe aka teflon if you google it makes it look nice and helps with a tad of friction, but doens't give it strength like hard anodizing.
the did erv3 is a great lightweight chain if your'e a preofessional racer, but it also costs more then others and is the weakest 520 chain we sell. I wouldn't recommend it at all. You won't notice the few ounces it saves you, you will notice the money you save with others, and for the street and extra safety why not have a stronger chain.
All of our sprockets we sell are hard anodized and the same grade alum. the superlight sprocket weighs less then the normal sprocket specialists sprocket, but Driven makes theirs very light right off the bat. We are only talking a few ounces here anyway so you won't notice a difference.
With that said we run only Driven chain kits with the ek mvxz chain as it's the strongest chain we sell and easily one of the strongest 520 chains on the market. Driven makes some great sprockets as well. This combo is reasonably priced and as good as anything out there performance and longevity wise...Out of what we sell this would be my choice and recommendation. Out of everything I have to pick from this is what I run, for what that is worth.
vortex are ptfe coated, not hard anodized. We won't sell them as hard anodizing make sthem much stronger. ptfe aka teflon if you google it makes it look nice and helps with a tad of friction, but doens't give it strength like hard anodizing.
Research. ALWAYS Do research BEFORE you bash a company.
Vortex BLACK HARD COAT Sprockets are indeed HARD COATED. then, they are PTFE coated for a nicer look. :fact
So, there is two coats. One for Strength, and the other for a really nice finish.
That being said, we have sold Vortex sprockets for almost 10 years. They are a great company, and many many race teams use their sprockets.
Ever since they came out with the Black Hardcoat, customers have raved about the longevity, and quality of the new version. And very reasonably priced.
So, before you jump on the Driven band wagon, take another look at the Vortex. You might like what you see.
We DO ALSO Carry Driven sprockets. So, either way, we can get you taken care of.
We are NOT BIASED toward one or the other. We just like customers to have the FACT............... and let them make the educated decision.
on the left side of our website we have a help center at the bottom of the page. in there is a link titled stock bike gearing. just go here and you can see what your bike and any others are for stock gearing.
I want the conversion as well. It would be nice to have some more acceleration but I dont want to wheelie every time I hit it... would the -1/+2 be too much? Anybody???
i have an 07 and if this is your only performance mod, you wont be poppin too many wheelies. I went -1 +2 and the damn thing is still so top heavy that I feel like its going to explode when I finally get the front end off the ground a substantial amount. Id suggest +4 or more performance upgrades.
.That's not stupid at all. They are just different brands. Like Yamaha and Honda.
DID is pretty much the best chain on the planet. Most popular, longest lasting...etc..
RK is also an excellent chain, and used my some of the MOTO GP Teams. So they have a great reputation as well. But, their chains are lower priced then DID. So, often guys will go with RK, to save some money and still get a great chain.
Click here for more details on Pricing, and comparing manufacturers.
lol so I lied is what he's saying. Those quotes are exactly what was said. He said they don't hard anodize them, they ptfe hard coat everything, and that there is "no such thing as hard anodizing." Perhaps he needs to log on here and set the record straight so it's in typing from him and no one thinks I'm fibbing. I'd be interested to see what he told me.
Call me crazy but lying about this would be stupid. I don't feel like putting my reputation at stake over something that doesn't even matter to me.
did erv3 has the WEAKEST tenstile strength and wear life out of every chain we sell. period.
You can go look it up right on the websites. I'm not about to get into a pissing match with another vendor, but if anyone wants tenstile strenghts and specs let me know...stating it's the best, strongest, lasts the longest goes against the specs that the manufacturers release themselves. it's a great chain for a racer that gets free chain or doens't mind replacing it more often. They don't pay what the average customers pays either, if they pay at all. Fact is that it's more spendy and weaker then the other models...
Well, at least you dropped the Vortex arguement.
Facts are Facts. Cannot argue with the Facts.
As for the Chain
He is correct. We don't Argue that
It's in writing, on each manufacturer's website what their tensile strength is.
Now who does the testing, and how honest are they with these numbers, is debateable.
Kinda like Contrast Ratio on Plasma TV's.
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It would be nice for someone who is INDEPENDANT, to do a head to head chain tensile strength and wear index.
Unfortunately, we cannot find anyone. So we go on 10 years of customer feedback and experience.
We have sold thousands and thousands of chain kits. #1 hands down is ERV3
And of those thousands of customers using them, with 150+ Hp bikes.. NONE have had any issues.
"hard coat is an electrochemical process that involves placing an aluminum part into an electrolytic bath and applying electrical current through the bath. This process forms an oxide coating (sapphire-hard) on the aluminum part. The oxide coating is built up by a process of anodic oxidation in a cooled acid electrolyte, thus preventing any thermal or physical distortion of precision-engineered components. This oxide coating can be harder than case hardened steel and provide excellent abrasion resistance; it is protective to the aluminum part and can be very durable."
lol!!!
so tell me now, whats the difference between this "hard coating" and anodization???
to me both look the same.
yes hard racing, we cant believe any of the tenstile strenghts they release themselves. we can't believe what any manufacturer states if it goes against what you state. you're going to try and discredit what the manufacturers release? then you need to prove it. i've gone to vortex's website, rk's, did's, ek's, etc. i believe what all of them state until I have reason to believe otherwise. anyone on this forum can do the same unless they take your word over what all the manufacturers state...
I dropped the vortex thing as people in this thread already covered it very thoroughly the readers on the forum are not stupid and can go to vortex's website and figure it out for themselves I haven't said one thing that you can't get off the manufacturers website and I won't accuse any manufacturer of lying unless I can prove otherwise. The members can go to the websites and figure it out for themselves unless they want to take your (hard racing) word over the manufacturers and without any proof.
I don't have time to sit here and validate multi million dollar companies publicly released ratings to you just because you feel they are not legit because they go against what you say. I have better things to do then argue like a child with you and prove things that are stated by very legit companies who have a huge liability issue on their hands if they lie about it.
ptfe should be fine for us regular street riders. and the did erv3 chain will suffice. you'll get the life expected out of it, b/c we don't ride around at 120 and 13k rpm all day like a race that uses this chain and then changes it after a race.
i went vortex steel up front, duh, and vortex f5 (ptfe coated) out back, with a did erv3 chain. can't complain. good luck OP.
Noob question, can I get a driven chain kit and keep the the stock teeth count ... for let's say I am doing it just for aesthetics because I am a squid?
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