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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 10-08-2009, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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Disable Sidestand Switch

Sometime when I was riding, my bike would shut off randomly. This was because either (a) the bike thought my kickstand was down, or (b) it threw CEL code 19.

Since code 19 pretty much means the sidestand switch is faulty, you can replace it (as per the manual). I opted to remove it instead.

So, I followed the wiring from the switch itself up to under the tank. The connection is circled in red (all photos can be clicked for a larger version).


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Here's a close-up after I unplugged the switch. This remaining part comes from the ECU.


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I then cut the connection off the switch. This is the switch after I removed the connection:


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And here is the connector with a little bit of wiring attached:


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I used a wire nut to wire the two leads together:


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And then I wrapped a little electrical tape (I didn't have any shrink-tube on hand) to help keep water out and plugged it back in.


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And now now my bike no longer shuts off randomly when I'm on the road!

I hope this is useful to anyone else that may be having this problem.


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post #2 of 40 (permalink) Old 10-08-2009, 07:36 PM
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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

Just dont forget to put it up or its gonna be hello pavement
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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

Quick question here for you. My neutral light is out.. and I need to pull the kick stand up, hold the clutch in just to start the bike. Now, once it's on and I put my kick stand down (even though it's in neutral but the speedometer just doesn't recognize it) it'll turn off the bike.

I'm guessing it's cause the bike thinks it's in gear when it really isn't. So my question is, will this eliminate that? And then later on I can just go ahead and replace the neutral switch too?

Edit: My ultimate goal as of right now is to be able to let the bike idle with my kick stand down. I'm hoping by eliminating the side stand switch like you did will allow me to do this.


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post #4 of 40 (permalink) Old 10-09-2009, 05:55 AM
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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

This should be considered a temp fix at most. Its a great write up but I think the kick stand switch is in series with the kill switch, clutch switch, neutral switch and possibley the tilt switch. Just know what your jumping out and plan to fix it properly asap.
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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

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Quick question here for you. My neutral light is out.. and I need to pull the kick stand up, hold the clutch in just to start the bike. Now, once it's on and I put my kick stand down (even though it's in neutral but the speedometer just doesn't recognize it) it'll turn off the bike.

I'm guessing it's cause the bike thinks it's in gear when it really isn't. So my question is, will this eliminate that? And then later on I can just go ahead and replace the neutral switch too?

Edit: My ultimate goal as of right now is to be able to let the bike idle with my kick stand down. I'm hoping by eliminating the side stand switch like you did will allow me to do this.
Yes it'll fix it, just make sure your bike isn't in gear when you let the clutch out! I rather fix that one than disable the sidestand switch.


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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

You don't need shrink tube to "keep water out". In fact, most shrink tubing won't keep water out. To do that you need shrink tubing with a melt wall/liner or just buy waterproof wire nuts.

Secondly, with this disabled I can see one issue. Bike is in gear and you're not on it when you hit the starter...... Won't that cause a problem?

But officer, I was only speeding because I really have to poop
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...with this disabled I can see one issue. Bike is in gear and you're not on it when you hit the starter...... Won't that cause a problem?
The motorcycle can not be started in gear without the clutch being disengaged regardless of the kickstand position.

Plus, the neutral light still works and I always make sure it is in neutral before I start it. I never start it in gear unless I kill it
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The only thing disabling the sidestand switch will allow me to do is ride with the kickstand down, which I don't think is that dangerous to begin with. If the kickstand hits something while riding it will fold up. Even still, I check the kickstand position before I take off now that I have the switch disabled.


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The motorcycle can not be started in gear without the clutch being disengaged regardless of the kickstand position.

Plus, the neutral light still works and I always make sure it is in neutral before I start it. I never start it in gear unless I kill it
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The only thing disabling the sidestand switch will allow me to do is ride with the kickstand down, which I don't think is that dangerous to begin with. If the kickstand hits something while riding it will fold up. Even still, I check the kickstand position before I take off now that I have the switch disabled.
Or just fix it like it should be...
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Let me know how it goes when the kickstand hits and just "folds up"

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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

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Quick question here for you. My neutral light is out.. and I need to pull the kick stand up, hold the clutch in just to start the bike. Now, once it's on and I put my kick stand down (even though it's in neutral but the speedometer just doesn't recognize it) it'll turn off the bike.

I'm guessing it's cause the bike thinks it's in gear when it really isn't. So my question is, will this eliminate that? And then later on I can just go ahead and replace the neutral switch too?

Edit: My ultimate goal as of right now is to be able to let the bike idle with my kick stand down. I'm hoping by eliminating the side stand switch like you did will allow me to do this.
Maybe it's the gear indicator sensor that is out...
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post #10 of 40 (permalink) Old 12-04-2009, 09:53 PM
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Re: Disable Sidestand Switch

so disabling/removing the kickstand switch is a bad thing? Hmmm so when the switch shits the bed in lets say an intersection? There you sit, traffic keeps moving. I've found this switch to be annoying at times already. Is it susposed to kill the bike when it comes down?
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