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Downshifting and rev matching?

Hey guys im kinda new to the r6, im just wondering if when I downshift I should rev match or is it fine to just very slowly let the clutch out after downshifting?
Also when approaching a stop, instead of downshifting can i just pop the bike in neutral, or will this have adverse effects on the bike?
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Hey guys im kinda new to the r6, im just wondering if when I downshift I should rev match or is it fine to just very slowly let the clutch out after downshifting?
Also when approaching a stop, instead of downshifting can i just pop the bike in neutral, or will this have adverse effects on the bike?
Thanks!!

Bikes are made to do whatever u wanna do with em. U dont need to really watch the rpms while down shifting unless ur pegging the tach ind in 3rd and wanting to go to second for some weird reason.. but if your slowing down from regular riding then i usually just listen to the bike sound and go with the flow.

And with stopping i usually just pop it into second then first and let the motor slow the bike down while slightly using my front breaks when coming to a stop.. I dont see why u need to put it into neutral but if thats what u wanna do then go for it... but when the light turns green and ur still coasting and need to get back up to speed u have to throw it back into 1st or second... /Shrug


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Re: Downshifting and rev matching?

yea your not going to do any damage to your bike down shifting. In fact its good for the bike to get it up into those high RPM's. These things are built for alot of stress on the engine, hence the 17K or so red line. They are very high end race engines, honestly they arent really built to drive daily at low RPM's around town, but they do the job


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Re: Downshifting and rev matching?

Do what you gotta do man just downshift and its fine use the clutch of course. and as far as slowing down yea you can put it in nuetral but who knows if someone behind you doens't see you or something happens and you have to get outta there na pinch you prolly want to be in gear

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Do what you gotta do man just downshift and its fine use the clutch of course. and as far as slowing down yea you can put it in nuetral but who knows if someone behind you doens't see you or something happens and you have to get outta there na pinch you prolly want to be in gear
Exactly... I dunno how many times a bike has saved my ass by having it in first and being able to be gone in .2 seconds

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Do what you gotta do man just downshift and its fine use the clutch of course. and as far as slowing down yea you can put it in nuetral but who knows if someone behind you doens't see you or something happens and you have to get outta there na pinch you prolly want to be in gear
i always keep mine in gear even at a red light until the car behind me stops. sometimes people cant see u and u want to be able to get out of the way quickly
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i always keep mine in gear even at a red light until the car behind me stops. sometimes people cant see u and u want to be able to get out of the way quickly
what are you going to do ride into the intersection in front of oncoming traffic or into the car in front of you?

guys, If it's going to happen, you will never be able to react fast enough to avoid it.

it's like the guy saying he doesn't need a seatbelt because he can put his hands up and hold on.


as for downshifting, if you are racing or track riding you should at least blip the throttle or let the clutch out slow on downshifts if you have a slipper clutch.
it will momentarily lock the rear if you do not.
on the street, it depends how you are riding.


and you can actually damage an engine downshifting. if you are downshifting and making the engine hit way up in redline zone you should wait until you slow down a little or hold out the gear longer.
I believe they call it "over revving" and it can damage the engine

it makes me want to close my eyes when I see guys in videos do this at the track. it's so easy to destroy an engine like that. and the power of most bikes falls off long before the redline anyway.
when you see professional riders they never do this to an engine. they let it come way down in rpms. you don't need it at the redline for a corner.

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Re: Downshifting and rev matching?

I will answer in 2 part since you asked two questions

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Hey guys im kinda new to the r6, im just wondering if when I downshift I should rev match or is it fine to just very slowly let the clutch out after downshifting?
I would rev match a lot less stress on the clutch. When you say your going to let out slowly on the clutch there will be a lot of friction on the plates this way and this is how clutches are burnt out. When using a clutch on a bike you want to be engaged or not.

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Also when approaching a stop, instead of downshifting can i just pop the bike in neutral, or will this have adverse effects on the bike?
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Oh corse you can just pop it into neutral, will have no ill effect on the bike what so ever.

Most of the time I downshift and rev match ever instance where I'm slowing down but that may be a little bit of habbit. I have a problem comming in hot to all my turn on the street.

There are track we call no brake tracks (like Roebling Road) that you do not have to use your brake at all (idealy) just by using engine braking. It really does help using the engine brake and with the newer R6 the addition of the slipper clutch is a plus plus++. use it it's there to be used and get the feel also check out the slipper clutch write up on the forum it's a great read and a great mod to do if your into that.

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Re: Downshifting and rev matching?

P.s. sorry about all the spelling I just read it and will take to long to fix....

Also Blue03R6 has a point about watching the RPMs I did not mention in hope that you would know that but +1 on that point watch where you at before you go jumping down gears

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Re: Downshifting and rev matching?

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Hey guys im kinda new to the r6, im just wondering if when I downshift I should rev match or is it fine to just very slowly let the clutch out after downshifting?
Also when approaching a stop, instead of downshifting can i just pop the bike in neutral, or will this have adverse effects on the bike?
Thanks!!
Slipper clutch .. gotta love it!

I've been trying to break my long-time habit of matching revs. Smooth clutch release and the slipper clutch should do the job and upset the chassis less than blipping the throttle.

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