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Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

Fot those that have been on race slicks operating at the optimal temperature, how much different does a Supercorsa V2 and/or a Q3 feel at the track also operating at optimal temperature?

Is anyone running Supercorsas or Q3s that ride WERA or CCS?

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Re: Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

Supercorsas and Superbike slicks (in the same compound) feel exactly the same because they are the same tire. You'll never feel the siping. Q3s feel very different because they aren't in the same league. Less grip, and it gets worse after a while when they can't shed heat fast enough. I've never seen anybody race on Q3s.


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Re: Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

Is this one of those "how can I save a buncha money on tires when I go racing???" questions is it?
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Supercorsas and Superbike slicks (in the same compound) feel exactly the same because they are the same tire. You'll never feel the siping. Q3s feel very different because they aren't in the same league. Less grip, and it gets worse after a while when they can't shed heat fast enough. I've never seen anybody race on Q3s.
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Is this one of those "how can I save a buncha money on tires when I go racing???" questions is it?
No. I'm debating between the two, and I wonder how close each will feel to a slick. Next season I plan to have an additional set of wheels with slicks. My lap times and riding by then should be enough to keep them up to temperature while riding.

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No. I'm debating between the two, and I wonder how close each will feel to a slick. Next season I plan to have an additional set of wheels with slicks. My lap times and riding by then should be enough to keep them up to temperature while riding.
oh... I know WERA allows slicks in ALL classes now. Pretty sure CCS still mandates DOTs in Supersport.
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Supercorsas and Superbike slicks (in the same compound) feel exactly the same because they are the same tire. You'll never feel the siping. Q3s feel very different because they aren't in the same league. Less grip, and it gets worse after a while when they can't shed heat fast enough. I've never seen anybody race on Q3s.
For clarity it's the Supercorsa SC race DOT's that are the same compound as the Superbike Slicks. There is a street version of this tire, the Supercorsa that is a direct competitor to the Dunlop Q3.

Warmers should be used with the Supersorsa SC and Superbike slicks. No warmers required for the street Supercorsa or Q3's.
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Re: Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

I think I'm going to go with the Supercorsas SP V2s.
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Re: Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

Oh, in that case... those SPs will feel similar to the Q3. They're in the same category. I thought you were only talking about SC compounds.


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Re: Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

So how much feeling/grip deviation from the SP and Q3s to full on slicks?

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Re: Insight Needed Regarding Slicks vs. Supercorsas & Q3s...

It really depends on your riding and pace. The slow end of advanced group is probably the fastest you can go where you won't notice a difference in grip. However, it's one of those things where the better (smoother) you're riding, the less you'll notice since you won't be asking the tire for as much grip at the extremes.

If you were racing mid-pack in the amateur class, you may not feel like you're losing time, but you probably would go a bit faster on a race compound. You'll notice the grip fall off after a couple hot laps, especially on a hot day. At that point, the street tires aren't lasting any longer anyway, so there's no point to run them. And obviously, the faster you go the bigger the difference.

One of my friends was on Q3s for a long time and would ride at what would probably be mid-pack amateur pace. He was happy with it, but the bike was clearly moving around more than it should be. After a crash he lost confidence in his tires, but then he moved to a set of Pirelli SC2s and they felt much better. He wishes he tried them out sooner.

What's your situation? Are you trying to save a few bucks on tires, or maintain a double duty street/track tire?


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