Because I dont think this would be allowed to happen over there :flex:

Muslim extremists demonstrating in Wootton bassett, Everytime one of our soldiers dies in conflict their flown into the RAF base in Wooton bassett and driven through the town, all the town comes out and marks respect by lining the streets, its become somewhat of a tradition.


Heres the story: http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/uk-news/421--coming-soon--wootton-bassett-march

As a member of the British Army im appauled that this is being allowed to take place.



Just fancied a rant tbh :nono

Ibtl

gotta be a record for IBTL calling

where do these morons get e-space to fprm a website like that??

that site is spreading more radicalism, should be stopped somehow.

IBTL

europe is so fuucked

US will self implode

europe is so fuucked
US will self implode

And people will still be wathing their TV's accepting everything that is said and continue to be brainwashed with lies and propaganda...

yep. i don't blame obama. it's really the people's fault for voting him in.

and i wouldn't be surprised if he does it agian in 2012

I just love the way people use these words today... Extremist, Radicals, Terrorists...

I see more 'extremisim' in the OP's thread than whats on that website...

Take over their country going after one man, Osama, destroy the country kill a thousands of innocent civilians... Have a war that has lasted for 9 years and still going on and when a soldier dies from your side make it into a huge story saying the terrorists/radicals/extremists killed him...
Way I see it, if the majority wanted a change over there, this war would have ended a long time ago, so I guess they don't want a change and maybe they were happy and fine with the way they lived so how about lets just stop invading their country and stop killing the innocent people out there...

And lets not start about Iraq and the big deadly weapons of mass destruction they had which our millitary leaders were showing right on TV with high-tech satellite photos to get the OK with the public... What happened at the end of it all, not much... Just a primitive hanging...and a bunch of dead innocent people...

I am sick of hearing and feeling all the hatered thats being fed... And i am talking about both sides here...
The same guy who gets fed so much hatred that is ready to go and blow himself up and the same guy who listens to the bullshit media with their own agenda and gathers so much hatred within themselves...

We are all the same at the end of the day, just live and let live and stop the fu(king hatred that you have been fed...

Bunch of people are dying everyday in Africa which no one gives shit about nor heard about on the media... Yet we continue to spend gazillion dollars on fighting BS wars and killing more...

Billions of people die in africa because even though the country is ripe with disease and death, not enough food and water to go around....they continue ****ing and making babies :o

Choosing to hold a demonstration on an extremist religion in the same town that fallen British comrades get repatriated is highly inappropriate imo.

Billions of people die in africa because even though the country is ripe with disease and death, not enough food and water to go around....they continue ****ing and making babies :o

Choosing to hold a demonstration on an extremist religion in the same town that fallen British comrades get repatriated is highly inappropriate imo.

Africa would not be poor if their natural resources weren't so exploited by western countries. Also you miss the entire point, how about helping a country and saving human lives instead of destroying others and killing innocent people

Extremist religion? lol... so in your opinion islam is an extremist religion? There are extreme cases in every religion, if you haven't realized by now! For you to come and say that the entire religions is extreme just shows how brainwashed and closed minded you are.

Either way no need to have such debates with you, go back and watch your TV...

I understand your point of view though.... anything else but what is fed on the media to you is highly unappropriate and unreal!

Open you eyes and stop having such hatred, will never get mankind anywhere

I just love the way people use these words today... Extremist, Radicals, Terrorists...

I see more 'extremisim' in the OP's thread than whats on that website...

In the eye's of the soldiers nation its Patriotism, in the eye's of the soldiers enemy its Extremisim. Pick a side.

Take over their country going after one man, Osama, destroy the country kill a thousands of innocent civilians...

Tell the enemy to stop hiding behind women, children, and churchs and that may not happen. We're fighting cowards who hide behind the defenseless, bury IED's, and live in caves.

Have a war that has lasted for 9 years and still going on and when a soldier dies from your side make it into a huge story saying the terrorists/radicals/extremists killed him...

Way I see it, if the majority wanted a change over there, this war would have ended a long time ago, so I guess they don't want a change and maybe they were happy and fine with the way they lived so how about lets just stop invading their country and stop killing the innocent people out there...

Tell that to the ones trying to invade ours. Tell that to the ones who took down the WTC's. Tell that to the f**k nut who tried to blow up a plane on christmas day. You speak of "not buying into propaganda" yet all I hear coming from you is all I've heard CNN, Hollywood, and Radical Islamic sympathizers preach for the past 8 years.

And lets not start about Iraq and the big deadly weapons of mass destruction they had which our millitary leaders were showing right on TV with high-tech satellite photos to get the OK with the public... What happened at the end of it all, not much... Just a primitive hanging...and a bunch of dead innocent people...

Haha, probably the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Saddam Hussein was the era's own Hitler. Are you saying we should have left him be? Then we could deal with him and Ahmadinejad at the same time. WMD's kill thousands of people, last time I checked Saddam was in the millions....and of his own people. He may not have had any real WMD's (so we think) but bringing down this era's Hitler was NO mistake.

I am sick of hearing and feeling all the hatered thats being fed... And i am talking about both sides here...
The same guy who gets fed so much hatred that is ready to go and blow himself up and the same guy who listens to the bullshit media with their own agenda and gathers so much hatred within themselves...

We are all the same at the end of the day, just live and let live and stop the fu(king hatred that you have been fed...

Annnnnnd you just lost all credibility. We are all human, yes. We are NOT the same though. :fact

I'm all for living and let live, to bad the enemy isn't for that. To bad there are still extremists out there willing to blow themselves up, or their children or their wives.

Bunch of people are dying everyday in Africa which no one gives shit about nor heard about on the media... Yet we continue to spend gazillion dollars on fighting BS wars and killing more...

So what's your plan then? We leave a nation that we've liberated high and dry to go help some tribesmen in Africa? I'm all for helping those who are in need of being helped, but what your stating is not only stupid but would undermine everything we've fought for for the past 9 years.



And with that, I'm done with this thread.


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5739/ibtl27bf23xd0.jpg

As for the OP,

Come on over man. The grass is definitely greener on the other side, haha. Unfortunately, you'll find that crap anywhere you go. Although over here its not as popular, haha.

Africa would not be poor if their natural resources weren't so exploited by western countries. Also you miss the entire point, how about helping a country and saving human lives instead of destroying others and killing innocent people

Extremist religion? lol... so in your opinion islam is an extremist religion? There are extreme cases in every religion, if you haven't realized by now! For you to come and say that the entire religions is extreme just shows how brainwashed and closed minded you are.

Either way no need to have such debates with you, go back and watch your TV...

I understand your point of view though.... anything else but what is fed on the media to you is highly unappropriate and unreal!

Open you eyes and stop having such hatred, will never get mankind anywhere

What other modern day religion teaches death to the infidels? Yes, Islam in itself is not radical, but many of its followers take a radical stance and use their faith to justify the murder of innocent lives in the name of Allah.

Christianity and Bhudism do not teach its followers to kill in the name of God.


So, Islam in itself can be somewhat an extremist religion.....yes?

This isn't going to end well

What other modern day religion teaches death to the infidels? Yes, Islam in itself is not radical, but many of its followers take a radical stance and use their faith to justify the murder of innocent lives in the name of Allah.

Christianity and Bhudism do not teach its followers to kill in the name of God.


So, Islam in itself can be somewhat an extremist religion.....yes?

Please do a little bit research before you come and post some nonsence like this...

And people will still be wathing Jersey Shore.

Fixed.

Please do a little bit research before you come and post some nonsence like this...


Pot......meet Kettle

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6iT1qarAdSQ/SNKT_0v4BhI/AAAAAAAAA0o/Z1rX7dP5ZTA/s200/pot-kettle+2.gif

Annnnnnd you just lost all credibility. We are all human, yes. We are NOT the same though.


Phantom, I bow down before your stupidity...

I am not a sympathizer of any kind... I read, watch and research and make my own judgements

Your comments are right out of mainstream media... Your justification of invasion of Iraq is the same exact words which has been preached over and over on the media...
I never said Saddam was a good leader, but the reason of invasion of Iraq was not the well being of Iraqi people to save them from Saddam it was for the WMD's that never existed... If we are fighting for other countries well being I am saying there are a lot of people starving in Africa we could help at much lesser costs and we would actually be saving innocent people rather than killing...

Either way, this won't get anywhere you are too into us vs. them mentality...

We are all humans at the end of it all and we should all live in peace trying to make our lives better while helping each other... No we are not the same every person is unique and different I didn't think that there were people out there at a preschool level of though that would of not understood...

I don't condone or support nor sympathize with any radical views... Nothing is good when it's extreme... I just think the world would be a much better place if we stop trying to differentiate each other from one another rather than understanding that we are the same and that we should be working to make this world a better place for all of us... (again, I hope you can comprehend the meaning of same here)

Where's James?

IBTL
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w31/HOT97ECLIPSEGSX/IBTL/IBTL.jpg

Im back again....Phantom, you rock, keep up the good work. :werd:bow


I finnally made it before lock!!!!:jacked

rantYour math is off and I don't share the level of aggravation but there is a lot of truth in what you wrote. Respect for speaking your mind and posting something you had to know is going to be unpopular.

Your math is off and I don't share the level of aggravation but there is a lot of truth in what you wrote. Respect for speaking your mind and posting something you had to know is going to be unpopular.

Thanks man...
I just think we can do so much more as humans, and the thought of an innocent person dying just really bothers me and it makes me sad to see all the hatred which causes most of this bullsh!t in the first place.

these "IBTL" posts are fcuckin retarded!

Phantom, post up that pic of the guy with the enromous bag of popcorn for me :D

these "IBTL" posts are fcuckin retarded!

Phantom, post up that pic of the guy with the enromous bag of popcorn for me :D


:laugh


This guy.......


I google "Giant Popcorn" and its under the images.




















http://www.busywomensfitness.com/images/popcorn.jpg

:YEA

:lmao

What other modern day religion teaches death to the infidels? Yes, Islam in itself is not radical, but many of its followers take a radical stance and use their faith to justify the murder of innocent lives in the name of Allah.

Christianity and Bhudism do not teach its followers to kill in the name of God.


So, Islam in itself can be somewhat an extremist religion.....yes?

It amazes me that people as ignorant as you actually exist....:nono

I'd like to see a real leader lead, pull troops out of all the countries we're in. we stir up shit and cut deals with tyrants and corrupts governments, way more corrupt than ours.


obama will fix all.

:popcorn: I am here,now we can IBTL :D

It amazes me that people as ignorant as you actually exist....:nono
:stupic

What did I say that makes me ignorant???

Thats what happens, radical Islamists use religion and Allah to justify the suicide bombings in England, 9/11 here in the states, and the market bombings in Amsterdam. Those are just a few examples.

Name me a Christian, Bhudist, or Jew that did something similar in the name of God....you cant, so shut the f*k up.
Im not bagging on Islam, I am talking about the f*kers that use it as an excuse to kill women, children, and innocent civies.

Islam is just a bit behind the times - but should not be beyond comprehension for anyone that is familiar with western history. Centuries ago Christians did the same - Constantine to Justinian, to Pope Urban and on and on, Christians were at war with anyone who wasn't and then even with those who just didn't share the same brand during the reformation.

It's not that foreign; Islam IMO is going through the same thing, on a radically smaller scale, all things considered, and here we are. I unfortunately am all for war; I just don't think we as people have evolved a better way of just settling sh!t once and for effing all yet. I just wish it didn't have to drag on so long - it's becoming like a spousal spat that just ends in bitter regret, no dog, no car and no cardboard house.

There is propaganda on both sides - and without being there - on both sides, who can say who's right? Every side has their story - pick your side; that's fine, but I think given the above, it's hypocritical to judge. The only thing that separates us from them is our cause vs. theirs.

IBTL!!

this thread is going nowhere fast

IBTL

:stupic

What did I say that makes me ignorant???

Thats what happens, radical Islamists use religion and Allah to justify the suicide bombings in England, 9/11 here in the states, and the market bombings in Amsterdam. Those are just a few examples.

Name me a Christian, Bhudist, or Jew that did something similar in the name of God....you cant, so shut the f*k up.
Im not bagging on Islam, I am talking about the f*kers that use it as an excuse to kill women, children, and innocent civies.

I can, if you are talking through the course of written history.
Have you ever heard of the Knights Templar?
They murdered ALOT of people in the name of the Christian God. Women, children, and whoever else stood in their way.
All religions are flawed....
I want Zeus back.

Phantom, I bow down before your stupidity...

I am not a sympathizer of any kind... I read, watch and research and make my own judgements

Your comments are right out of mainstream media... Your justification of invasion of Iraq is the same exact words which has been preached over and over on the media...
I never said Saddam was a good leader, but the reason of invasion of Iraq was not the well being of Iraqi people to save them from Saddam it was for the WMD's that never existed... If we are fighting for other countries well being I am saying there are a lot of people starving in Africa we could help at much lesser costs and we would actually be saving innocent people rather than killing...

Either way, this won't get anywhere you are too into us vs. them mentality...

We are all humans at the end of it all and we should all live in peace trying to make our lives better while helping each other... No we are not the same every person is unique and different I didn't think that there were people out there at a preschool level of though that would of not understood...

I don't condone or support nor sympathize with any radical views... Nothing is good when it's extreme... I just think the world would be a much better place if we stop trying to differentiate each other from one another rather than understanding that we are the same and that we should be working to make this world a better place for all of us... (again, I hope you can comprehend the meaning of same here)

Ok so tomorrow morning when you wake up and eat breakfast, just think of Africa. Stfu poser.

edit: You use "we" too much. You aren't fighting anything. I don't see you giving to charities, i don't see you giving everything for africa? Treehuggers at best.

Ok so tomorrow morning when you wake up and eat breakfast, just think of Africa. Stfu poser.

edit: You use "we" too much. You aren't fighting anything. I don't see you giving to charities, i don't see you giving everything for africa? Treehuggers at best.

Good one dumbfu(k what does my breakfast have to do with africa you moron...
I contribute to various charities as much as I financially can but i guess you are the one to know that I don't ... Did I say for anyone to give EVERYTHING?!?!
And sorry I'm not a treehugger...

I can, if you are talking through the course of written history.
Have you ever heard of the Knights Templar?
They murdered ALOT of people in the name of the Christian God. Women, children, and whoever else stood in their way.
All religions are flawed....
I want Zeus back.

I meant modern day religious practices.....

As far as I know, Islam is the only one that spews such hate and ill will towards everyone that is not part of that religious group i.e- infidels.

Good one dumbfu(k what does my breakfast have to do with africa you moron...
I contribute to various charities as much as I financially can but i guess you are the one to know that I don't ... Did I say for anyone to give EVERYTHING?!?!
And sorry I'm not a treehugger...

You say you worry about the Africans so much, go over there and help them.
I dont give a rats ass about Africa, or any other 3rd world nation. We have enough problems here in the US that need urgent attention, yet Africa seems to be your top priority. We are dealing with terrorists/misguided religious fanatics in Iraq, Afghan, and soon enough Iran. Stopping the spread of their Radical Islam and Jihad is the greater good for both the US, and the world.

Now I don't agree with the whole Iraq/Afghan situation, but while we're there, might as well do some good and kill the Radical Islamists. IMO that is a more worthy investment of $$$ than sending it to Africa, where they will still all die becaseu of AIDS. :lmao

how about pro life christians that are blowing up abortion clinics? how about the bombings in iowa back in 06? How about Eric Robert Rudolph? It's no coincidence that the media associates terrorists with islam. You never hear as much emphasis put on christian terrorists. If you take in all the bs the media spoonfeeds you, then it is no surprise how confused you are about the reality of islam, and that there is a difference between a "corrupt religion" and "followers" that use it as justification. ISLAM PREACHES PEACE AND SUBMISSION TO GOD. ps, you're throwing around Allah like some foreign unknown term. Christians and Muslims believe in the SAME GOD. Allah is just the arabic word for God. Get your facts straight before you try to look cool starting a religious debate on a motorcycle forum.

Way I see it, if the majority wanted a change over there, this war would have ended a long time ago, so I guess they don't want a change and maybe they were happy and fine with the way they lived so how about lets just stop invading their country and stop killing the innocent people out there...

You couldn't be more wrong. The people there do want change and just because all you see on tv is death and destruction doesn't mean that's all that's going on in Afghanistan! The people there are terrorized by the Taliban. If they dare do ANYTHING contrary to the Talibans beliefs, their whole family is killed. Do you honestly believe all the suicide bombers WANT to die? No, the Taliban kidnaps their family and the men do what they think they have to do to save their family from being murdered, not realizing their family is already dead. How can we, as the strongest and best military in the world stand by and let such tyranny exist?

Do you know in Western Afghanistan that instead of planting poppies for drug production for the insurgents, the farmers are now planting wheat to feed themselves and sell at profit to better their nation? Did you know there are women in Afghanistan who are being taught to farm chickens to provide for their families and to sell for profit? Who do you think started these programs? Not the Afghani government, I can assure you that!

Have you looked into the eyes of a small child as a medic cuts open her leg to find a vein to rehydrate her because she has been deemed as not as important as her male siblings? Have you been on the ground at a casualty evacuation point where Afghani soldiers are being treated for wounds obtained in battle along with the US and other Coalition Forces? Have you stared into the wiring of an IED on the steps of an elementary school; designed to kill children?

Did I learn this by watching tv or listening to politicians? NO...I was there and personally witnessed all of the above.

I'm not going to get into a political debate, just thought you might want to be a little more informed before making such vague generalizations. With all that being said...thank you for taking advantages of the freedoms you are given to express your opinions...those same freedoms that so many have died for and that so many continue to fight for.

OP: I think disturbing the ceremonies surrounding ANY dead is dispicable.

For any that wish to do something to stop such protesters, please volunteer with your local chapter of the Patriot Guard Riders. http://www.patriotguard.org/

:usa

how about pro life christians that are blowing up abortion clinics? how about the bombings in iowa back in 06? How about Eric Robert Rudolph? It's no coincidence that the media associates terrorists with islam. You never hear as much emphasis put on christian terrorists. If you take in all the bs the media spoonfeeds you, then it is no surprise how confused you are about the reality of islam, and that there is a difference between a "corrupt religion" and "followers" that use it as justification. ISLAM PREACHES PEACE AND SUBMISSION TO GOD. ps, you're throwing around Allah like some foreign unknown term. Christians and Muslims believe in the SAME GOD. Allah is just the arabic word for God. Get your facts straight before you try to look cool starting a religious debate on a motorcycle forum.

Oh so now youre a Islam preacher too?:screwy


Whatever dude. Seems like you have a hard on for Africa, and want us out of the Middle East. Go get 'em tiger!

islam preacher huh? when you were claiming that no terrorist acts were made in the name of Christianity and i respond with cases that indeed have? I love Christianity. I love Islam. I am frustrated by ignorant people like you who believe what they want to believe rather than further investigating the issue. Don't make claims you can't back up, and furthermore don't get pissy when your claims get proven wrong.

and ps i never claimed anything about where I stand about us in the middle east or africa.

:laugh


This guy.......


I google "Giant Popcorn" and its under the images.




















http://www.busywomensfitness.com/images/popcorn.jpg

now the irony is that phantom could pass for this guy! haha :poke

I meant modern day religious practices.....

As far as I know, Islam is the only one that spews such hate and ill will towards everyone that is not part of that religious group i.e- infidels.

How about the KKK. They are Christian and spew ignorant hate.

KKK o shyt? where?!?

thatr6 chick had it in a nut shell... thanks gurl!

This thread is rediculous, I see a lock in the near future IBTL!!!

Lock... this thing should be put in a vault...

yesterday thru 2000+ years ago, people were talking about the same shit. Some things just don't change. A hundred years from now we'll (human race) be talking the same shit still.
Shows how smart humans are after all. They can't decide shit peacfully cause of unknown manmade beliefs and patriotism.

Good one dumbfu(k what does my breakfast have to do with africa you moron...
I contribute to various charities as much as I financially can but i guess you are the one to know that I don't ... Did I say for anyone to give EVERYTHING?!?!
And sorry I'm not a treehugger...

Haha, i love treehuggers who say they contribute to charity when they can. AKA meaning you never do. Stop preaching about africa and other 3rd world nations. You wanna do something thats great go over there and give them your money, because i sure as hell won't. I'm sure those natives in africa would love to steal your clothes right off your back. Literally moron.

Haha, i love treehuggers who say they contribute to charity when they can. AKA meaning you never do. Stop preaching about africa and other 3rd world nations. You wanna do something thats great go over there and give them your money, because i sure as hell won't. I'm sure those natives in africa would love to steal your clothes right off your back. Literally moron.

I just love morons like you that just blab... You must really know me to make such comments...

Good display of your intelligence on your part with posts with no meaning :bowroll

You couldn't be more wrong. The people there do want change and just because all you see on tv is death and destruction doesn't mean that's all that's going on in Afghanistan! The people there are terrorized by the Taliban. If they dare do ANYTHING contrary to the Talibans beliefs, their whole family is killed. Do you honestly believe all the suicide bombers WANT to die? No, the Taliban kidnaps their family and the men do what they think they have to do to save their family from being murdered, not realizing their family is already dead. How can we, as the strongest and best military in the world stand by and let such tyranny exist?

Do you know in Western Afghanistan that instead of planting poppies for drug production for the insurgents, the farmers are now planting wheat to feed themselves and sell at profit to better their nation? Did you know there are women in Afghanistan who are being taught to farm chickens to provide for their families and to sell for profit? Who do you think started these programs? Not the Afghani government, I can assure you that!

Have you looked into the eyes of a small child as a medic cuts open her leg to find a vein to rehydrate her because she has been deemed as not as important as her male siblings? Have you been on the ground at a casualty evacuation point where Afghani soldiers are being treated for wounds obtained in battle along with the US and other Coalition Forces? Have you stared into the wiring of an IED on the steps of an elementary school; designed to kill children?

Did I learn this by watching tv or listening to politicians? NO...I was there and personally witnessed all of the above.

I'm not going to get into a political debate, just thought you might want to be a little more informed before making such vague generalizations. With all that being said...thank you for taking advantages of the freedoms you are given to express your opinions...those same freedoms that so many have died for and that so many continue to fight for.

OP: I think disturbing the ceremonies surrounding ANY dead is dispicable.

For any that wish to do something to stop such protesters, please volunteer with your local chapter of the Patriot Guard Riders. http://www.patriotguard.org/

:usa

Thank god someone injected some sense into this thread. God bless you for all you do girl.

I just love morons like you that just blab... You must really know me to make such comments...

Good display of your intelligence on your part with posts with no meaning :bowroll

Just shut up. Now your arguing for the sake of arguing. :fact

In the jungleeee, the miiiighty jungle, the liiiion lives toniiiiiight.....

:YEA

You couldn't be more wrong. The people there do want change and just because all you see on tv is death and destruction doesn't mean that's all that's going on in Afghanistan! The people there are terrorized by the Taliban. If they dare do ANYTHING contrary to the Talibans beliefs, their whole family is killed. Do you honestly believe all the suicide bombers WANT to die? No, the Taliban kidnaps their family and the men do what they think they have to do to save their family from being murdered, not realizing their family is already dead. How can we, as the strongest and best military in the world stand by and let such tyranny exist?


Do you know in Western Afghanistan that instead of planting poppies for drug production for the insurgents, the farmers are now planting wheat to feed themselves and sell at profit to better their nation? Did you know there are women in Afghanistan who are being taught to farm chickens to provide for their families and to sell for profit? Who do you think started these programs? Not the Afghani government, I can assure you that!



You don't get the point do you? Some people do want change but majority doesn't! If the majority did want a change it would of taken way less than 9 years to do it as you say they are against the "the strongest and best military"

So in your opinion again the US govenment went into Afghanistan on humanitarian ground to save the Afghani people? Just like they invaded Iraq to save the Iraqi people?

Yes not the Afghani government... The taliban is actually the ones who had almost stopped the poppy production pre 9/11
It only got worse after US forces entered Afghanistan...

And who controls the poppy trade now in Afghanistan? President of Aghanistan Karzai and the officials who are put in place. And who was it that put these people in power?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/11/19/karzais_cronies?print=yes&hidecomments=yes&page=full

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/67722.html




Either way, I am done with this thread...

Maybe the day will come I'll realize I was wrong or maybe it'll be vice versa...

But people should realize there are always 2 sides to a story, you need to listen to both sides and try to make a judgement

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02/obamawajirAP_450x499.jpg

I stand by my sig.

You don't get the point do you? Some people do want change but majority doesn't! If the majority did want a change it would of taken way less than 9 years to do it as you say they are against the "the strongest and best military"

So in your opinion again the US govenment went into Afghanistan on humanitarian ground to save the Afghani people? Just like they invaded Iraq to save the Iraqi people?

Yes not the Afghani government... The taliban is actually the ones who had almost stopped the poppy production pre 9/11
It only got worse after US forces entered Afghanistan...

And who controls the poppy trade now in Afghanistan? President of Aghanistan Karzai and the officials who are put in place. And who was it that put these people in power?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/11/19/karzais_cronies?print=yes&hidecomments=yes&page=full

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/67722.html




Either way, I am done with this thread...

Maybe the day will come I'll realize I was wrong or maybe it'll be vice versa...

But people should realize there are always 2 sides to a story, you need to listen to both sides and try to make a judgement

And that's where you can't learn to shut up. People have heard, have listened, and they have chosen a side. You just can't seem to get over that. We all want peace, and we all want to be happy. Unfortunately, that is not the nature of human beings. There is option A and there is option B. People like yourself find it a "fad" to create your own option C. Your either for us or against us. The idiots in the middle are the ones who get silenced throughout history. Again, human nature does not have "peace" in its vocabulary.

oh yeah


http://www.gifflix.com/files/052bdfd69463.gif

And that's where you can't learn to shut up. People have heard, have listened, and they have chosen a side. You just can't seem to get over that. We all want peace, and we all want to be happy. Unfortunately, that is not the nature of human beings. There is option A and there is option B. People like yourself find it a "fad" to create your own option C. Your either for us or against us. The idiots in the middle are the ones who get silenced throughout history. Again, human nature does not have "peace" in its vocabulary.

........

:rolleyes:

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:rolleyes:


Allow me to use one of your own quotes against you...


I just love morons like you that just blab... You must really know me to make such comments...

Good display of your intelligence on your part with posts with no meaning :bowroll

Thanks for playing....

NEXT!!

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:laugh

This wasnt about race or religion.

It was about the government allowing a bunch of crazy islamic nutters (250 I think were attending? btw these people claimed asylum and then decided to build mosques, dis-regard our law and bring in the 'Shira' (whatever the **** it is) law instead) to carry empty coffins through a town where soldiers are repatriated on what seems like a weekly basis.

Its bullshit, our government is wank, and therefore I was merely asking for a place in America, preferebly Texas...or Florida...where I can join one of those hardcore that are preparing for some kind of civil war and have shitloads of guns in their house :D