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: Hyper Pro Steering Damper, thoughts?


circabc
06-23-2010, 08:18 AM
Im considering going for the Hyperpro Steering damper for my 06 R6, my buddy has one and cant say enough good things about it, i was wondering if anyone had any other impressions or similar ones? Also please specify if you got the active dampener or non-active, and why you decided to go with that choice. As im not to sure which im leaning towards yet.

jwxfd
06-23-2010, 08:29 AM
Best mod I've done to my bike hands down:fact. Even next to my head work and full exhaust...I got the RSC because unlike non RSC dampers you can't really tell its there until its needed. Stop thinking about it and order it now...you WILL NOT be dissappointed:fact

Fenrich
06-24-2010, 09:59 PM
Yeah I'd like some more input on what's better between RSC or CSC.

haze748
06-24-2010, 10:01 PM
Id love one, but rent is currently taking most of my cookie dough.

Scriptor
06-26-2010, 11:56 AM
I have one of these, on the street they don't do much (from my experience) on the track, you need these suckers to stay out of trouble =D I have the RSC. Works like a charm, and I had to get Hyperpro do to the price, otherwise I'd get Ohlins. Heard very good things about Scoots but the GPR V4 are crap, already met 4 people, including one few weeks ago who had one on his GSXR, started leaking oil after 7months of ownership (4 of which the bike never rode)

gsxcorey
06-27-2010, 05:20 AM
with your suspension set up properly and the damper you won't think they are doing much, but even if they stop one tank slapper (you may not even feel it with the damper) they are worth their weight in gold. However, if your suspension is set up properly you souldn't have too many front end issues normally.

I have one of these, on the street they don't do much (from my experience) on the track, you need these suckers to stay out of trouble =D I have the RSC. Works like a charm, and I had to get Hyperpro do to the price, otherwise I'd get Ohlins. Heard very good things about Scoots but the GPR V4 are crap, already met 4 people, including one few weeks ago who had one on his GSXR, started leaking oil after 7months of ownership (4 of which the bike never rode)

mcallister
06-27-2010, 05:44 AM
ive got the rsc damper and i absolutly love it. no complaints at all.

DanQ
06-27-2010, 05:55 AM
with your suspension set up properly and the damper you won't think they are doing much, but even if they stop one tank slapper (you may not even feel it with the damper) they are worth their weight in gold. However, if your suspension is set up properly you shouldn't have too many front end issues normally.

:flex:

Excellent post, Corey. :fact

I know over the years I've picked up a reputation as the guy who hates steering dampers (well... at times I do :laugh). But as you've stated, they make an outstanding addition to a well sorted suspension. Where my disdain comes in is when folks just want to bolt on one without having done anything else to their chassis, just because it may seem simple.

Get a proper suspension tune, and spend time finding geometry that works for your riding. THEN add a good damper to your new setup. You'll never have any big worries about your chassis.

And for clarification: I'm not saying that you have to buy every "unobtanium" suspension part for your motorcycle. A simple basic setup (sag and proper damping adjustments) is all that is really needed. It makes no sense to diagnose steering problems when these things are completely unknown. Once you've done that, like buying any other aftermarket part, buy what appeals to you and has the features you want.

gsxcorey
06-27-2010, 06:01 AM
+1. i can't even tell my ohlins is on my bike and honestly I hope I never do. Great suspension set up (oem dialed in properly as said above) and the damper should have very little to nothing to do. But it only takes one headshake and you'll wish you had one that day. The goal though is to avoid headshakes with proper set up then back it up with a damper.

What really cracks me up is when people install them and want to "feel" the damper working by tightening it up. It's amazing that people pay 3.6k for BST's and grands for lightweight rotors then people install a damper and want to tighten it till they feel it and hinder their turn in. You don't have to feel it to know it's working and in fact you shouldn't feel it. It's goal isn't to t ighten up the steering (like many think).

DanQ
06-27-2010, 06:17 AM
+1. i can't even tell my ohlins is on my bike and honestly I hope I never do. Great suspension set up (oem dialed in properly as said above) and the damper should have very little to nothing to do. But it only takes one headshake and you'll wish you had one that day. The goal though is to avoid headshakes with proper set up then back it up with a damper.

What really cracks me up is when people install them and want to "feel" the damper working by tightening it up. It's amazing that people pay 3.6k for BST's and grands for lightweight rotors then people install a damper and want to tighten it till they feel it and hinder their turn in. You don't have to feel it to know it's working and in fact you shouldn't feel it. It's goal isn't to tighten up the steering (like many think).

I think you fully understand my frustration. :cheers

I still need to put one on my trackbike, but a few other things need to be done first.

circabc
06-27-2010, 10:42 AM
Thanks for all the advice guys i really appreciate it, i was talking toa guy in the border line up randomly about it lol and he said he used to use HyperPro but they leaked alot. have they fixed this issue with there recent versions ?

DanQ
06-27-2010, 11:42 AM
Thanks for all the advice guys i really appreciate it, i was talking toa guy in the border line up randomly about it lol and he said he used to use HyperPro but they leaked alot. have they fixed this issue with there recent versions ?

Couple of the guys I race/do track days with swear by them, and we haven't had to touch a thing on them since.

Like ANY hydraulic component there will be wear to sealing surfaces and degradation of the oil etc. You might as well factor in 10%-25% every two years or so of having the component serviced. A steering damper running on broke down oil with leaking seals after a few years of use does you as much good as not having one to begin with.

gsxcorey
06-27-2010, 01:00 PM
They use to have a problem with leaking but about 3 years ago fixed it and non since. Scotts/ohlins are the most bullet proof i've ever seen though in terms of QC.

R6Hed
06-27-2010, 02:26 PM
i have one. it leaks. sprays oil on my gauges and windscreen. awesome.

but i am contacting the company about it so i wouldnt write them off.

gsxcorey
06-27-2010, 02:50 PM
just contact hyperprousa if you're in America. they will warranty it depending on how long you've owned it.

R6Hed
06-28-2010, 12:19 PM
just contact hyperprousa if you're in America. they will warranty it depending on how long you've owned it.

I bought it secondhand. Didnt pay much for it, but just called Annitori Distributing and its $99 for the rebuild, so im shipping it out to them, then they warranty it for 1yr.

funkisamura1
08-19-2010, 01:21 PM
I am a rookie rider so I don't have tremendous insight like the rest of these guys outside of my own misadventures. I have the RSC and love the fact that the steering can be left feeling virtually stock with the added benefit of damping when things go wrong.

If you're wondering what a tank slapper looks like, check out this video. Obviously this guy is stunting, but it's just a reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f10ZsAaxBlc

I hit a large dip in the highway and my front came down crooked just like that leading to a tank slapper just as violent. The bars went left, right, left, right then basically dead center as the Hyperpro did its work. This was about 3 clicks (out of something like 22 at its stiffest) from the stock soft setting. I am THOROUGHLY impressed with this product and highly recommend it as a complement to basic suspension adjustment.

maddagascar
08-20-2010, 12:46 AM
do you have to have a good suspension setup before you get a steering damper? i mean, i'm new to the motorcycle things, but only have heard great things to get one. i don't do track YET. but going to be doing my own twisties and commute to work everyday. i always hear it is always great to have even if you think its not working, it is.

i was looking at hyperpro's too, but co worker of mine says ohlins and he loves his.

DanQ
08-20-2010, 07:48 AM
do you have to have a good suspension setup before you get a steering damper? i mean, i'm new to the motorcycle things, but only have heard great things to get one. i don't do track YET. but going to be doing my own twisties and commute to work everyday. i always hear it is always great to have even if you think its not working, it is.

i was looking at hyperpro's too, but co worker of mine says ohlins and he loves his.

A properly setup suspension can largely negate the "need" for a steering damper. And a lot of tuners agree that a damper can mask signs of an improperly set suspension. Once set up properly a damper is a great addition.

funkisamura1
08-20-2010, 07:51 AM
I got my suspension set by a reputable track shop (Washington Cycle Works) for $45 bucks. It really is a no-brainer at that price.