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: Oil Filter the Old way


RedWolfRider
01-10-2005, 01:20 PM
Alright i have read all the topics of how to take off your oil filter. but before i try the old fashion way of the "good ole screw driver" i wanted to make sure i would do it right.

where do i stick the screwdriver... top (center of the circle) or the side? thanks in advance

z31maniac
01-10-2005, 01:25 PM
Thats why I use K&N filters they have 17mm bolt head on the end of the filter.

RedWolfRider
01-10-2005, 01:31 PM
Thats why I use K&N filters they have 17mm bolt head on the end of the filter.

yea i know but its too late... my bike is drained and naked now and it is 65 degress... i am dying to get it back on the road.

penfold
01-10-2005, 01:40 PM
where do i stick the top (center of the circle) or the side? thanks in advance

do you mean where do you stick it with the screwdriver?

drhodes
01-10-2005, 01:51 PM
where do i stick the top (center of the circle) or the side? thanks in advance

do you mean where do you stick it with the screwdriver?

I'm was wondering the same thing..... :poke

RedWolfRider
01-10-2005, 02:02 PM
yea sorry the screwdriver... where do i stick the screw driver. sorry for the confusion

penfold
01-10-2005, 02:05 PM
my technique when i used the screwdriver method was more along the lines of psycho. i just restabbed as necessary as my filter was on to tight from the stealership so it was a pain to get it started to come off. i don't think there is a right way or wrong way.

Manoah
01-10-2005, 02:33 PM
my technique when i used the screwdriver method was more along the lines of psycho. i just restabbed as necessary as my filter was on to tight from the stealership so it was a pain to get it started to come off. i don't think there is a right way or wrong way.

Man, i cant tell you how many times i had to hack oil filters off that way.
last time i changed the oil on the 6 i ended up borrowing my buddy's RR
oil filter cap thingy, but he paid like $30 for it, next time, ill look up that
K&N one.

Manoah

RedWolfRider
01-10-2005, 02:39 PM
i wen to autozone and got an oil filter wrench thing that goes on the end of a socket and i swear my roomate and I both tried to get that damn thing off... and no luck. and it is dry so i dont want to fill it up with oil to drive it to the dealership for them to do it bc i would have to pay for oil and $40 for them to do it. ...ummm... bounce that.... :cuss:

well i guess i will just stab it from the side... and turn. and hope not to break anything. :cuss

NoLegs
01-10-2005, 03:14 PM
You can use a hose clamp and some sort of "L-shaped" metal (flat and bent 90 degrees, about 1/8" thickness, about 3/4" wide). Put the hose clamp on, insert your homemade "thingjogger" in there and tighten the hose clamp, then proceed to turn the thingjogger. Loosen hose clamp, reposition and repeat until loose. The screwdriver method works just as good, but just a little more messy.

mdr
01-10-2005, 04:51 PM
Redwolfrider,

I had to do this the other day myself---

Make sure to use a flathead screwdriver that is long enough to go thru both sides. Make sure you turn it so that the flat edge gives you leverage against the filter or you will shred it like an aluminum can.

I used a rubber mallet to drive it all the way thru...Get ready for a mess, even though the pan is empty the filter isnt!! it may take two holes if your turning range is limited by the surrounding bike parts.

good luck...

MDR :hammer

RedWolfRider
01-10-2005, 04:57 PM
MDR,

thanks for the detailed explaination... I appreciate it. YEA!

mnealp33
01-10-2005, 05:10 PM
you can also use a rag tie a strong rag around the oil filter stick the screwdriver between the filter and the rag give the screwdriver a twist and wala a home made filter wrench

jasamb
01-10-2005, 06:40 PM
i have used this method and have had decent results

-put the screwdriver up to the filter and whack it hard enough to make a good dent
-get the flat end of screwdriver up into the dent at an angle and use a hammer to tap it until it turns
-if you need to, whack another dent in it and repeat until it spins feely.

doing it this way (without actually breaking the filter) gets the same results with far less mess.

Hammy_The_Can_Man
01-10-2005, 09:35 PM
Watch your ass on that one! I've had some very close calls doing that. :roll:

stoneloco808
01-10-2005, 09:40 PM
i never did try this back yard method. i guess i just dont like the mess it could make and/or damaging something else in the process. i bet a filter wrench for this size is less than $10. whats $10? its always nice to have the right tool to do the job.

mnealp33
01-11-2005, 03:39 AM
:stupic but that takes all the fun out of it :hammer

RedWolfRider
01-11-2005, 08:45 AM
whats $10? its always nice to have the right tool to do the job.

Yea see i went to pep boys and tried to get the right tool... and that mofo is still not coming off... and yea sears in my area is sold out of every oil filter wrench :cuss: go figure...

Watch your ass on that one! I've had some very close calls doing that.

I am skeptical about this "backyard method" i am scared of messing something up...So i might search a little longer before i decide to shove it through.

Manoah
01-11-2005, 08:50 AM
you cant get it off with the oil filter "cap"? is it the right size?

Manoah

RedWolfRider
01-11-2005, 08:54 AM
man nope... it is really pissing me off... it is so tight that i think that oil filter cap is just stripping it ...

http://hometown.aol.com/swejaguar/index.html

Thinking about making this maybe this would work...

stoneloco808
01-11-2005, 09:08 AM
i use something like this tool.

http://www.kd-tools.com/catalog/images/3288.jpg

i found a tool like this one from my snap-on tools dealer. the one i use on my bike is smaller than the one pictured. it was around $10. but i forgot the manfacturer and part#. if i was you i would just take a new oil filter down to the motorcycle parts store and buy the filter tool from there.

if it is mangled at this point then the tool will not do anything for you. usually my last resort is a pair of channel lock pliers, but the area is kind of tight. you might not be able to get a good grip on it. i say try jasambs method.

and next time try not to king kong method of tightening your oil filter. a dab of oil on the o-ring should help on your next oil change along with the right tool. oh yeah the k&n oil filter is a nice investment in times like this with the external hex portion spot welded on.

RedWolfRider
01-11-2005, 09:12 AM
and next time try not to king kong method of tightening your oil filter. a dab of oil on the o-ring should help on your next oil change along with the right tool. oh yeah the k&n oil filter is a nice investment in times like this with the external hex portion spot welded on.

yea this is the first time i am changing it... the first time the dealership did it along with the first service. so they probably made it that tight. well thanks for the help.. i will look for something of that sort.

Suhas
02-12-2005, 03:19 PM
yo just roll up to ur local yamaha dealer and they can sell you a tool for ur oil filter ... its has like teeth .. i dunno but it fit PERFECTLY on top of my oil filter there is no adjust on ne thing u slide it on and turn .. its like 12 bucks ..

Suhas :cheers

ptirmal
02-22-2005, 07:41 AM
I got the one stonecold listed off ebay... not made by snap on but its great, it tightens as you unscrew to ensure a tight grip. Someone recommended in to me so I got it. Like 14 bucks with a 1/2" to 3/8" reducer, I can use it with my torque wrench (1/2" drive) or socket wrench (3/8" drive), and now i have the reducer I was gonna spend 5 bucks on :mrgreen:

njk27
02-22-2005, 09:23 AM
People don't understand that you only have to turn the filter half a turn after it touches. It is amazing how something so simple causes the most aggravation.

ptirmal
02-22-2005, 10:16 AM
People don't understand that you only have to turn the filter half a turn after it touches. It is amazing how something so simple causes the most aggravation.
are you talkin about when you install it? cause for me it was pretty damn tight but it was the first time i changed the oil in my bike. I tightened it up but not nearly as tight as the people who did it before. Also, if ya got a filter wrench might as well use it!

njk27
02-22-2005, 11:51 AM
Yes when You install it.

RedWolfRider
02-22-2005, 04:51 PM
update:

I ended up using a strap wrench from sears... got the smalles one and keep moving up to a larger one as i broke the smaller ones. A guy at a rival shop told me about that... didnt have much room to get any torque but centimeter after centimeter if it finally came off....

here is a pic of the one i used.
http://content.sears.com/data/product_images/009/45571/00945571000-dlv.jpg

stoneloco808
02-22-2005, 08:03 PM
update:

I ended up using a strap wrench from sears... got the smalles one and keep moving up to a larger one as i broke the smaller ones. A guy at a rival shop told me about that... didnt have much room to get any torque but centimeter after centimeter if it finally came off....

here is a pic of the one i used.
http://content.sears.com/data/product_images/009/45571/00945571000-dlv.jpg


i tried a similar tool from crapsman. it didnt work because of the excess chain wax that somehow ended up on the oil filter housing.

njk27
02-22-2005, 09:09 PM
I kind of like craftsman.

danrivito
02-23-2005, 04:39 PM
i love craftsman. Lifetime warranty on a great product....you cant go wrong.