: Best frame sliders to protect fairings
Patroclus 01-22-2011, 12:47 PM Im looking for frame sliders thatll do the best job at protecting my fairings if I cake it. I know woodcraft sliders are good but they're too short to protect the fairings unless someone can tell me otherwise... any ideas?
tfs32 01-22-2011, 12:49 PM they are fram sliders for a reason, They are not ment to protect the fairings. With that said Woodcraft is the best, the will protect them the BEST
I had a 100mph lowside at the track and did not have one scratch on my lower fairing...
Patroclus 01-22-2011, 12:54 PM they are fram sliders for a reason, They are not ment to protect the fairings. With that said Woodcraft is the best, the will protect them the BEST
I had a 100mph lowside at the track and did not have one scratch on my lower fairing...
i know they are frame sliders but they still help protect the fairings regardless of their name. please explain how woodcraft would protect the fairings better than a longer slider? im not being a dick I just really want to know..
KingEdwardR6 01-22-2011, 01:00 PM they are designed to be short because it keeps them from hooking onto something when you lowside and bike is sliding. If it were to catch onto something it will most likely cause it to flip and do flips in the air
if you want to protect your fairings also get some race rails
WOODCRAFT FTW
tfs32 01-22-2011, 01:01 PM they are CUT, NO CUTS tend to bend in a crash or fall and dont hold up. They are the best...Because they are. I will only run Woodcraft on my bikes :fact And the length of the slider is also a factor, you dont want a long one, as it could catch when sliding and cause the bike to start flipping. The longer it is, the easier it will be to catch and flip. Then your fairings are the least of your worries :fact
Patroclus 01-22-2011, 01:04 PM alright I guess i might as well get woodcraft, thx
KingEdwardR6 01-22-2011, 01:15 PM great choice
Doc-Ram 01-22-2011, 02:20 PM lots of variables during a crash, so not one type of sliders will protect in all types of crashes. Most frame sliders are designed to scrape off on the puck, thereby reducing damage to the frame/fairings. U could get woodcrafts and depending on the crash variables, it might still not serve its purpose, just a reminder so u know.
tfs32 01-22-2011, 02:26 PM lots of variables during a crash, so not one type of sliders will protect in all types of crashes. Most frame sliders are designed to scrape off on the puck, thereby reducing damage to the frame/fairings. U could get woodcrafts and depending on the crash variables, it might still not serve its purpose, just a reminder so u know.
get out of here with your doctor logic :laugh
Agg2001 01-22-2011, 02:30 PM get out of here with your doctor logic :laugh
:laugh
and fwiw - woodcrafts 2011 pricing says a kit is ~$56 these days. that's stupid cheap.
03r6special 01-22-2011, 02:34 PM not only are they short to prevent the bike from flipping, but the longer the slider is, the more leverage there is to cause the slider to fail and cause frame damage. i just got some woodcrafts and love them.
odin544 01-22-2011, 03:41 PM not only are they short to prevent the bike from flipping, but the longer the slider is, the more leverage there is to cause the slider to fail and cause frame damage. i just got some woodcrafts and love them.
QFT.
Regardless what you (the OP) want a frame slider to protect, they are designed to protect the frame. As stated above, a longer slider provides more leverage if it catches something, creating a higher chance of damaging your frame, and a higher chance of causing your bike to flip instead of slide. Replacing fairings < replacing bent frame every time.
This is the same reason why "no cut" frame sliders are garbage. The mounting brackets create more leverage on the mounting point on the frame.
quikZ43 01-22-2011, 04:11 PM My vortex sliders extend about 1.5 inches past the fairings and look like they would provide some protections to the lower fairings but wouldnt do much good for the tank or uppers.
MikeN02 01-22-2011, 04:18 PM With all the protection you can still only minimize damage. So far I haven't found anything to really protect the tail. Only fool-proof way is to get insurance or... not go down.
I'm running Frame Sliders, Clutch Sliders and Spools at the moment and going to add rear axle and front.
quikZ43 01-22-2011, 04:22 PM With all the protection you can still only minimize damage. So far I haven't found anything to really protect the tail. Only fool-proof way is to get insurance or... not go down.
I'm running Frame Sliders, Clutch Sliders and Spools at the moment and going to add rear axle and front.
Before the track this season I will be adding a clutch slider, fork sliders, rear axle sliders, and tank sliders as well.
MikeN02 01-22-2011, 04:25 PM Before the track this season I will be adding a clutch slider, fork sliders, rear axle sliders, and tank sliders as well.
Careful with the extra sliders on the track. I run street and have small feet so it's ok.
A lot of people complain about the clearance issues with clutch sliders, you have to slide your foot in instead of on top of.
Many people also said the clutch sliders extend out a lot so if you lean too far it'll catch/scrape and cause you to go down.
And do your research before you get race railz or cages, race railz cause the bike to flip imo. Frame sliders are your best bet.
ChiefSmokeDawg 01-22-2011, 04:37 PM Careful with the extra sliders on the track. I run street and have small feet so it's ok.
A lot of people complain about the clearance issues with clutch sliders, you have to slide your foot in instead of on top of.
Many people also said the clutch sliders extend out a lot so if you lean too far it'll catch/scrape and cause you to go down.
And do your research before you get race railz or cages, race railz cause the bike to flip imo. Frame sliders are your best bet.
If you got a clutch slider to touch down, you'd be Valentino Rossi
timbo-slice 01-22-2011, 06:40 PM If you got a clutch slider to touch down, you'd be Valentino Rossi
:werd
there's no way a clutch slider will hit the ground when your in a corner unless the bike has already been dropped. the lean angle isn't enough for it to touch pavement.
an0therh22 01-22-2011, 09:36 PM i got a pair of frame sliders from sato racing and for me its the perfect length and the material is top notch. a bit pricey but they are amazing.
stg313 01-22-2011, 10:03 PM +1 for woodcraft
Mario J 01-22-2011, 10:14 PM i know they are frame sliders but they still help protect the fairings regardless of their name. please explain how woodcraft would protect the fairings better than a longer slider? im not being a dick I just really want to know..
wait what?!?!?! :laugh tell that to my right fairings after my highside :screwy
Aint_too_Ghetto 01-22-2011, 11:24 PM somebody link me to this 56$ woodcraft thing.:)
R6TRAILER 01-23-2011, 12:12 AM motomummy's got for $69shipped:fact
Agg2001 01-23-2011, 06:00 AM www.woodcraft-cfm.com
HERE (http://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=FSY4)'s the base - $39.99
HERE (http://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=FSPU)'s the pucks - $15.00
Flying Pig 01-23-2011, 06:38 AM :laugh
and fwiw - woodcrafts 2011 pricing says a kit is ~$56 these days. that's stupid cheap.
http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/images/smilies/ibeenripped.gif
Agg2001 01-23-2011, 06:46 AM yea, i went to price someone the other day, and they told me another guy had em cheaper. went to woodcrafts site to verify pricing/MAP and saw this. musta REALLY gotten aggressive for 2011. oh well... i paid $1100 for my exhaust, and now they're ~$750 shipped. :(
gsxcorey 01-23-2011, 08:08 AM +1
I've seen what are called the "best" sliders not do anything in some crashes and i've seen some crashes were absolute junk saved the bike the best. It's a crap shoot in a crash, but as long as you stick with the known sliders you'll be fine. It's a piece that sticks out of the bike and is designed to absorb forces. Don't over think it :) 9 times out of 10 they pay off, but there are crashes that make it so it doesn't matter if you even have them on there. Just go with a good name brand slider and hope for the best.
lots of variables during a crash, so not one type of sliders will protect in all types of crashes. Most frame sliders are designed to scrape off on the puck, thereby reducing damage to the frame/fairings. U could get woodcrafts and depending on the crash variables, it might still not serve its purpose, just a reminder so u know.
gsxcorey 01-23-2011, 08:12 AM The 56 thing is great if you want to protect half your bike. If you want to protect both sides I would recommend purchasing two pucks and not just one :) hehe
Woodcraft would most likely notify us if they changed their pricing.
First line in the description of the pucks
"These solid replacement pucks are sold separately"
For one bike you need to purchase two of the 15 dollar pucks.
JTolles 01-23-2011, 10:16 AM If you want frame sliders to protect your fairings, you better get the "cut" ones.
or this..
http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127014
gsxcorey 01-23-2011, 10:23 AM jtolles: what brand sliders were those?
JTolles 01-23-2011, 10:26 AM jtolles: what brand sliders were those?
No brand markings on them.. They were on the bike when I bought it in august. sooo idk..
aaronk277 01-23-2011, 11:19 AM I've got a set of woodcrafts on the one bike that are the plastic, any benefit going to the metal vs. plastic
sprint_9 01-23-2011, 12:32 PM They say the plastic are better then metal. I could see the metal digging in more, where plastic will dissipate more energy.
MikeN02 01-23-2011, 03:42 PM I've got a set of woodcrafts on the one bike that are the plastic, any benefit going to the metal vs. plastic
Metal ones will cause a fire from the friction... You want the slider to grind off and absorb the force
gsxcorey 01-23-2011, 05:21 PM The reason most don't recommend metal is that metal doesn't absorb energy as well and if you snag something instead of ripping it off it can tweak the frame or mounting points or flip the bike.
S3aturnR 01-23-2011, 05:59 PM i know they are frame sliders but they still help protect the fairings regardless of their name. please explain how woodcraft would protect the fairings better than a longer slider? im not being a dick I just really want to know..
longer slider pucks tend to grab things on the ground and send the bike tumbling, ruing way more than just the fairings...
s3aturnr
p.s. someone may have already said this, but i'm not reading thru 4 pages to find out...
Saltman 01-24-2011, 02:24 PM Woodcrafts FTW.
Not to mention but if you happen to crash, you wouldn't have to worry about it being almost impossible to get the sliders off. Woodcraft slider pucks have the screws on the side of the pucks instead of the front face.
redisdeadrideblue 01-24-2011, 02:27 PM Just as an FYI.... FRAME SLIDERS ARE TO PROTECT YOUR FRAME, NOT YOUR FCUKIN PLASTICS..... If you want to protect your plastics, dont crash douchebag...:fact:laugh
Agg2001 01-24-2011, 02:28 PM cage ftw? :laugh
redisdeadrideblue 01-24-2011, 02:29 PM i know they are frame sliders but they still help protect the fairings regardless of their name. please explain how woodcraft would protect the fairings better than a longer slider? im not being a dick I just really want to know..
Long sliders provide an excellent platform to catch on pavement ridges as your bike slides, perfect for flipping it up into the air for a spectacular end over end obliteration of your bike. If you go down lowside, a short slider will probably protect most of that side, but you'll get scratches. A long slider will probably having you looking to replace both sides and the tank...assuming it doesnt catch on fire...:laugh
Patroclus 01-24-2011, 04:37 PM it never ceases to amaze me on how many people need to reiterate something thats been said, i know they arent designed to protect fairings but kick your bike over without them and then put them on and do it again. check the damage and report back to me with the analysis. these are more for tips rather than lowsides/highsides because I know I wont ever crash because im just too damn good. stuntin like my daddy...
odin544 01-25-2011, 12:30 AM Just FYI, frame sliders will not protect your plastics. They are made to protect your frame. :fact
Gundamzeppelin 01-25-2011, 02:25 AM If you want frame sliders to protect your fairings, you better get the "cut" ones.
or this..
http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127014
I plan on switching out my OES no cuts for cut sliders, I'd hate to cut my farrings but vs an outcome like that. Sacrifices must be made.
Justin Bieber 02-04-2011, 06:29 PM :laugh
and fwiw - woodcrafts 2011 pricing says a kit is ~$56 these days. that's stupid cheap.
where can i order a set of black woodcrafts for my 09 R6 at this price?
S3aturnR 02-04-2011, 06:42 PM it never ceases to amaze me on how many people need to reiterate something thats been said, i know they arent designed to protect fairings but kick your bike over without them and then put them on and do it again. check the damage and report back to me with the analysis. these are more for tips rather than lowsides/highsides because I know I wont ever crash because im just too damn good. stuntin like my daddy...
for a tip over, sliders may be worse than no-sliders. chances are, in a zero mph tip over, your frame sliders are likely to fold right over and cause damage to the bike. they are truly made for a lowside where the bike is already leaned over and the bike just slides on it with minimal impact when it touches down
where can i order a set of black woodcrafts for my 09 R6 at this price?
i would go to www.sportbiketrackgear.com those dudes are awesome! i was in their shop on monday and saw the woodcraft sliders on the shelf. they were marked $60-something, i think, tho...
s3aturnr
sprint_9 02-04-2011, 08:12 PM i would go to www.sportbiketrackgear.com those dudes are awesome! i was in their shop on monday and saw the woodcraft sliders on the shelf. they were marked $60-something, i think, tho...
s3aturnr
+1 for sportbiketrackgear, its where I got my Woodcrafts. Great guys to work with if you have any problems.
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