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: Difference Between R6 and R6s


mk3turbo
08-11-2006, 09:22 PM
I have a 2004 R6 and i was wondering what the difference is between the two? I know the middle farring is different along with the rear liscense bracket but other than that i cant tell a difference

jjm004
08-11-2006, 09:26 PM
bigger front tire and radial mounted caliper on the r6s. lots of difference with the r6.

kyles r6
08-12-2006, 12:16 AM
between an 04 r6 and 06r6s there is NO DIFFERENCE

SiK6SiX
08-12-2006, 01:09 AM
bigger front tire and radial mounted caliper on the r6s. lots of difference with the r6.

Wrong. The radial mount calipers are on the R6 (and the 05). The R6s went back to the non inverted forks and the regular cheapie brakes.

jjm004
08-12-2006, 08:07 AM
check again.

Brakes/Front Dual 298mm floating discs w/radial-mount orged 4-piston calipers

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/500/0/specs.aspx

BlueSeed
08-12-2006, 09:12 AM
Actually jjm004, you may want to check your facts.

Taken straight from Yamaha's website.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelfeatures/500/0/features.aspx


Light, 298mm front brake discs, four-piston calipers and radial master cylinder provide unsurpassed braking power and feel.

The R6S is a 2004 model rebadged as just below the new R6.

SiK6SiX
08-12-2006, 12:10 PM
HAHAHHA well... that's a link to the 2007. And if you look at the pictures they are NOT radial mount calipers. It's a radial MASTER CYLINDER.

BlueSeed
08-12-2006, 03:51 PM
HAHAHHA well... that's a link to the 2007.

I know. :)

The '06 had the same specs as well. Just the standard cheapie brakes.

jjm004
08-13-2006, 07:22 AM
yamaha better update theier site because under "specifications" is states "Brakes/Front Dual 298mm floating discs w/radial-mount orged 4-piston calipers
"

Ranko
09-14-2008, 01:16 AM
Ok, i got a question??? When i purchased my r6s last year, i purchased the 08 model. Brand new of the show room floor. Ok so now i am at a point where i am actually taking turns really nice and actually riding it like its supose to be riden... What i wanna know is whats the actuall diference in handeling and power. Then lets say a R6 or a Suzuki 600... I mean in general i see specifications but what is the diferance with the brakes and the shocks... How much better is the handeling, i mean what is the r6s compered to the r6... Idk i kinda purchased this bike without really researching or anything and i feel that i made a mistake what i should have done is do some research and then purchase because there was a small diferance in price, since i purchased it brand new.. lets say from a r1 or a r6... regular.. or evan a suzuki or a kawi..not that i like any of them but i am just saying...
Thanx.

Ranko
09-14-2008, 01:17 AM
Sorry, thats more like questions... :sing

mfrankpdx
09-14-2008, 02:09 AM
Ok so now i am at a point where i am actually taking turns really nice and actually riding it like its supose to be riden...

At which track? :popcorn:

The differences are subtle enough that it would take some serious miles and track time to begin to feel the disadvantages of the R6S from the R6.

SkyWiTiT23
05-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Hey guys sry to revive a dead thread but i used the search button lol, anywho im alittle cunfused, i bought this bike, im the second owner, question is now im not sure do i have a R6 or R6's? or like somone said it was rebadged for the year for some reason? That it is a R6"? Is this R6 the same R6 as other years or somthing? i see alot of the same R6 04 on the forum and people saying its a "R6" so can someone tell if i have a R6" or R6s" I know about the inverted forks but again all the R6 i seen on the forum are just like mine...thanks fellas

heres a pic shitty pic sry its all i got..


http://i46.tinypic.com/2eewxf8.jpg

lyestille
05-22-2010, 08:43 PM
Hey guys sry to revive a dead thread but i used the search button lol, anywho im alittle cunfused, i bought this bike, im the second owner, question is now im not sure do i have a R6 or R6's? or like somone said it was rebadged for the year for some reason? That it is a R6"? Is this R6 the same R6 as other years or somthing? i see alot of the same R6 04 on the forum and people saying its a "R6" so can someone tell if i have a R6" or R6s" I know about the inverted forks but again all the R6 i seen on the forum are just like mine...thanks fellas

heres a pic shitty pic sry its all i got..


http://i46.tinypic.com/2eewxf8.jpg

thats an R6s man 03&04 and 06 and up look just like yours
i have an 07 R6s and it looks just like yours minus the stickers i took mine off

~03~Raven
05-22-2010, 08:51 PM
thats an R6s man 03&04 and 06 and up look just like yours
i have an 07 R6s and it looks just like yours minus the stickers i took mine off

Not to split hairs here but actually 03-05 it was just an R6 then in 06 when the new 3rd gens came out they kept the 2nd gen and renamed it the R6s. So that style is 03-05 R6 and 06-09 R6s. Same difference though, the 06+ R6s is the same exact thing as the 03-04. '05 was an oddball year.

SkyWiTiT23
05-22-2010, 08:52 PM
[QUOTE=lyestille;1578461]thats an R6s man 03&04 and 06 and up look just like yours

okay but how the 04 R6 look then? how do you know its a R6s details cause im los haha thanks guys.

SkyWiTiT23
05-22-2010, 08:56 PM
Not to split hairs here but actually 03-05 it was just an R6 then in 06 when the new 3rd gens came out they kept the 2nd gen and renamed it the R6s. So that style is 03-05 R6 and 06-09 R6s. Same difference though, the 06+ R6s is the same exact thing as the 03-04. '05 was an oddball year.

okay now im more cunfused lmao so i have a R6 but technically its a R6s? or its a real R6..Sry i kinda dont understand..Is my engine different from a R6 if it is a R6s? Sry for the noob questions this is alllll new to me.. :)

~03~Raven
05-22-2010, 09:04 PM
okay now im more cunfused lmao so i have a R6 but technically its a R6s? or its a real R6..Sry i kinda dont understand..Is my engine different from a R6 if it is a R6s? Sry for the noob questions this is alllll new to me.. :)

No they are the same thing just if it's an 03-05 it was just called an R6. When they made the newer R6 instead of having two bikes with the same name but different everything they renamed the 2nd gens the R6s. In 03-05 there was only the R6, 06+ there was the R6 and the newly renamed 2nd gen R6s. If you have an 03-05 it's an R6 regardless. If you have a 06-09 and it looks like an 03-04 it is an R6s. Everything about the 06-09 R6s is exactly the same as the 03-04 R6, The '05s were different and had radial front brakes, larger throttle bodies, inverted forks, dual radiator fans instead of one and a slightly different rake angle. The 05 was the only year to have that stuff, then in 06 when they changed it to the R6s they switched everything back to the same way it was for 03-04.


03-04 R6(2nd gen)
http://www.mag-knight.com/images/04R6_BLU_1_6249.jpg
05 R6
http://www.actionmotorcycleschool.com/images/chrislohr6.jpg
06+ R6s(continuation of 2nd gen)
http://www.yamahabike.net/images/2006YZF-R6S.jpg
06+ R6 (3rd gen)
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/products/mcy/500/06YZFR6_blue_1sized.jpg

SkyWiTiT23
05-22-2010, 09:20 PM
okay first let me say thanks for taking the time to explain it to me..So It is and R6 technically for its time in 03-04 but its really a R6s cause the 06+ has the same stuff as the 03-04 had casue they changed everything as u said and the newer R6 is different then the 03-04 ones...My question is now is the 03-04 R6 engine wise and clutch different then the 05 up "R6" basicly does it have the same performance as the newer "R6" with the style as the R6s, you know where im getting at? sry if i sound like a moron lol..thanks bro your very helpful.

~03~Raven
05-22-2010, 09:31 PM
okay first let me say thanks for taking the time to explain it to me..So It is and R6 technically for its time in 03-04 but its really a R6s cause the 06+ has the same stuff as the 03-04 had casue they changed everything as u said and the newer R6 is different then the 03-04 ones...My question is now is the 03-04 R6 engine wise and clutch different then the 05 up "R6" basicly does it have the same performance as the newer "R6" with the style as the R6s, you know where im getting at? sry if i sound like a moron lol..thanks bro your very helpful.

Well your's is an 04 so it's just an R6. The 06+ R6s is the same thing performance wise. Anything from the 03-04 R6 and the 06+ R6s are interchangeable like clutches, levers, frame, motor, triple trees, forks, etc... Everything. Most of the stuff from the 05 will work on the 03-04 and the 06+ R6s. Now the 3rd gens are a completely different beast, with a completely different motor, frame, power curve, everything. Really the R6s just signifies that it is a 2nd generation(03-04) R6 that was produced in 2006 and later. If you found a cheap wrecked 07 R6s everything good on it would be interchangeable with your 04.

SkyWiTiT23
05-22-2010, 09:42 PM
ahh i see, okay so i have a R6' not an R6's But if all the R6s are interchangable doesnt make u think personally in your head "well i really have a R6s" u know what im trying to say..Cause im guessing the R6s is slower or whatever u may call it i dunno i may using the wrong words for it but im guessing your getting where im goin with this, but instead of calling it a R6 cause its a different beast, they went back to 03-04 model R6 style cause its "easyer bike to ride" ? and not as much performance as the R6.. am i kinda right or way off into left field lol

~03~Raven
05-22-2010, 10:02 PM
ahh i see, okay so i have a R6' not an R6's But if all the R6s are interchangable doesnt make u think personally in your head "well i really have a R6s" u know what im trying to say..Cause im guessing the R6s is slower or whatever u may call it i dunno i may using the wrong words for it but im guessing your getting where im goin with this, but instead of calling it a R6 cause its a different beast, they went back to 03-04 model R6 style cause its "easyer bike to ride" ? and not as much performance as the R6.. am i kinda right or way off into left field lol

:lmao Yea essential. When they had the 03-05 R6 they still had the thundercat(YZF600r) as and entry level sportbike. In 06 They were phasing out the YXF600r so the 2nd gen R6 became the R6s as their more entry style or not soo much race oriented sportbike. The 3rd gen R6 was designed to be a track beast, the 03-04 R6 and R6s was a track beast and still is but they tried to top themselves and make something more aggresive for the track which is what they did. The 2nd gen R6(&R6s) have a little more relaxed riding position, not as good suspension and brakes, and the motor isn't as top end focused. It has a little more low end power and is generally more street rider friendly. The 3rd gens have explosive top end but are pretty dead in the lower end.

So here when the 03-05s were the king of the yamaha sportbike realm here is what you had.
The track bad boy
http://images03.olx.com/ui/1/98/56/5309256_1.jpg
The more entry level 600 the thundercat
http://images03.olx.com/ui/1/92/86/12908686_1.jpg


Then in 06 when things changed
The new R6 and new track monster
http://images02.olx.com/ui/1/06/71/6960571_1.jpg
Now the old track bad boy(R6) became the new(R6s) entry style, less aggresive option for a sportbike.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/nyyace/DSC01891.jpg


Nomenclature. It's a bitch isn't it. :lmao

SkyWiTiT23
05-22-2010, 10:20 PM
yeah bro lol, but in all, mine and yours is a legit R6, but as a reminder its a R6s aswell lol and now i understand, before we had the other 600 and our bike was beast of the track..Now 2006-2010 its named a R6s" cause they redid the R6" and now our bike is entry level bike compared to the new R6" and prolly soon enough the new R6 might be an entry level bike soon when they redo the R6 again ya know its all about time and stuff..But not for nothin R6, R6s this bike doesnt feel like a entry level bike by no means.. I had a 2005 CBR600RR, and i feel like my 04 yamaha feels quicker and faster then my CBR, idunno why that is? what do you think...Also my friend what should i do to my bike performance wise bang for it buck mods i should do to get everything outa this bike? it also has a GYRT pipe allready..Again my friend thanks alot bro for the help...In easyer terms You the shit! lol:lmao

jebova2301
05-22-2010, 11:08 PM
is it possible that the S on the end of it stands for Second gen?

hairhead29
05-23-2010, 09:57 AM
[QUOTE=~03~Raven;1578484]No they are the same thing just if it's an 03-05 it was just called an R6. When they made the newer R6 instead of having two bikes with the same name but different everything they renamed the 2nd gens the R6s. In 03-05 there was only the R6, 06+ there was the R6 and the newly renamed 2nd gen R6s. If you have an 03-05 it's an R6 regardless. If you have a 06-09 and it looks like an 03-04 it is an R6s. Everything about the 06-09 R6s is exactly the same as the 03-04 R6, The '05s were different and had radial front brakes, larger throttle bodies, inverted forks, dual radiator fans instead of one and a slightly different rake angle. The 05 was the only year to have that stuff, then in 06 when they changed it to the R6s they switched everything back to the same way it was for 03-04.

Very well put. I am the proud owner of an '09 R6S. It RIPS.Let's face it, since their intro in '99, no matter what year you have , you have THE BEST middleweight bike there was for that year. The second gen was such a beast, they continued to make it even with the new third gen in its lineup. Great marketing and lucky for me because the second gen was the model I fell in love with. The newer ones are definitely better, but no matter which gen you own, be proud because you are ridin' the best there is. My two cents.

SkyWiTiT23
05-23-2010, 12:10 PM
[QUOTE=~03~Raven;1578484]No they are the same thing just if it's an 03-05 it was just called an R6. When they made the newer R6 instead of having two bikes with the same name but different everything they renamed the 2nd gens the R6s. In 03-05 there was only the R6, 06+ there was the R6 and the newly renamed 2nd gen R6s. If you have an 03-05 it's an R6 regardless. If you have a 06-09 and it looks like an 03-04 it is an R6s. Everything about the 06-09 R6s is exactly the same as the 03-04 R6, The '05s were different and had radial front brakes, larger throttle bodies, inverted forks, dual radiator fans instead of one and a slightly different rake angle. The 05 was the only year to have that stuff, then in 06 when they changed it to the R6s they switched everything back to the same way it was for 03-04.

Very well put. I am the proud owner of an '09 R6S. It RIPS.Let's face it, since their intro in '99, no matter what year you have , you have THE BEST middleweight bike there was for that year. The second gen was such a beast, they continued to make it even with the new third gen in its lineup. Great marketing and lucky for me because the second gen was the model I fell in love with. The newer ones are definitely better, but no matter which gen you own, be proud because you are ridin' the best there is. My two cents.

yeah i love the bike , i just didnt understand witch one i had lol bu ti do love the bike, somtimes i feel like its not enough power, cause i was riding my cusins 2002 R1 for for 2 summers before i bought a bike again after i crashed my CBR, and now going back the 600 somtimes i feel like i need more, but but i dunno i am happy plus i great a great deal on it..

~03~Raven
05-23-2010, 12:26 PM
[QUOTE=hairhead29;1578804]

yeah i love the bike , i just didnt understand witch one i had lol bu ti do love the bike, somtimes i feel like its not enough power, cause i was riding my cusins 2002 R1 for for 2 summers before i bought a bike again after i crashed my CBR, and now going back the 600 somtimes i feel like i need more, but but i dunno i am happy plus i great a great deal on it..

If you are used to the pull of the litre bike and you aren't too concerned about your gas mileage throw on a -1/+2(15/50) sprocket kit and 520 chain. That will give you more power down low and might make it feel better. R1 has more grunt down low than the 6 for sure, but with a sprocket kit you can give the bike a little more umph down low.

SkyWiTiT23
05-23-2010, 01:16 PM
actually there is a different spocket on the bike, its a Vortex i think? how do i narrow down what kind it is, details on it? Also what about a power commander?

zer0tolerance
07-07-2010, 04:33 PM
this thread made me not confused no more! but i have a question, if every part is interchangeable and r6 is the same as r6s, how come some exhaust such as hotbodies megaphone would not fit S model? because i would like to get an exhaust for the r6 but it states NON S MODEL. Which really confuses me.

Mario J
07-07-2010, 04:35 PM
this thread made me not confused no more! but i have a question, if every part is interchangeable and r6 is the same as r6s, how come some exhaust such as hotbodies megaphone would not fit S model? because i would like to get an exhaust for the r6 but it states NON S MODEL. Which really confuses me.

probably means its for the 3rd generation bike

zer0tolerance
07-07-2010, 04:40 PM
oh ok, at first i wanted to buy the motogp style ebay exhaust but so much researching changed my mind lol. Ok, so regular r6 exhaust will definitely fit the r6s?

Mario J
07-07-2010, 04:42 PM
oh ok, at first i wanted to buy the motogp style ebay exhaust but so much researching changed my mind lol. Ok, so regular r6 exhaust will definitely fit the r6s?

not necessarily... if its is a regular r6 from 2003-2004 then it will fit the R6s
if its for a R6 (non s) from 2006-2009 it won't fit without modification

zer0tolerance
07-07-2010, 04:45 PM
gotcha! yeh i think im startign to get this lol. thanks alot man. appreciate it

BriscoR6
05-25-2011, 11:37 PM
I know im restarting an old thread but had a question...So if i could find an 03-04 R6 for cheaper than an 06 R6s i would basically be gettin the same bike for a cheaper price? Or did they upgrade some things but just kept the same look.

NorthShoreR6S
05-25-2011, 11:46 PM
03-05 and r6 s... Pretty much the same thing.

Wieb27
05-26-2011, 05:36 AM
At which track? :popcorn:

The differences are subtle enough that it would take some serious miles and track time to begin to feel the disadvantages of the R6S from the R6.

:stupic

drz400dude
08-30-2012, 01:10 PM
Sorry to put the paddles to this thread, but this is the exact same problem I was having and I didn't want to start a new post. I just bought this bike and I want to order some parts for it, but I don't know if it is a r6 or r6S? It's a 2007. Here is a pic of it.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/376824_352983248071492_897062085_n.jpg

ridick_bowen
08-30-2012, 01:31 PM
R6 or v model

ridick_bowen
08-30-2012, 01:32 PM
Sorry to put the paddles to this thread, but this is the exact same problem I was having and I didn't want to start a new post. I just bought this bike and I want to order some parts for it, but I don't know if it is a r6 or r6S? It's a 2007. Here is a pic of it.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/376824_352983248071492_897062085_n.jpg

You do not have a S model.

Illernoise
08-30-2012, 03:08 PM
:popcorn:

Jdawson2012
08-30-2012, 03:13 PM
:popcorn: icon sticker is apparently fitting :laugh