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: How-To: Stunt


Paytheon
12-19-2007, 05:16 AM
Here is the How-To Stunt sticky thread. Post up how you wheelie, stoppie, etc. Enjoy.:)

the_student
12-19-2007, 10:48 AM
Protection: Wear a helmet, jacket, jeans, and gloves if you don’t want to get messed up.


Before riding wheelies on a bike
If you have access to a quad, a dirt bike, or a fiddy, learn wheelies on that first. What you learn about throttle control and the balance point will help you in learning to ride a wheelie on a bike. If you’re ready to learn on a bike then: 1. Make sure the rear brake works and adjust the lever to a comfortable height. 2. There should be 1in. of play in chain slack. A chain too tight or too loose will wear out the chain and sprockets faster than normal. 3. Make sure there are no cracks in the foot pegs, and make sure all of the bolts are tight.

Speed and riding position for learning wheelies
I recommend that beginners learn wheelies if first gear. It is easier to launch the wheelie in first gear, and there is more engine breaking in first gear. This means that you can ride a wheelie higher without the danger of looping it. It also hurts much less and breaks less stuff when you crash in first gear. For that reason i don't think it is a good idea to do highspeed wheelies until using the brake is second nature. It is also much easier to go from riding out first gear wheelies to second gear wheelies than vice versa. The only downfall to learning wheelies in first vs. seconds is that the wheelie won’t be as smooth. The throttle will feel much more sensitive. I think fifteen mph is a good speed to launch wheelies while learning; any slower and the wheelie may feel unstable to a beginner. I also recommend learning wheelies standing up with the left foot on the passenger peg, and the right foot on the front peg, covering the brake. While it may feel awkward at first to wheelie while standing, it will be easier after you get used to that part. Most people think it is easier to balance and control a wheelie standing up vs. sitting down. It is also easier to launch the wheelie from standing up.

Why clutching wheelies is the best method for launching wheelies
Clutching is by far the best way to get wheelies up, regardless of whether the bike has enough power to power it up. While it does wear out clutch plates a little faster than normal, the difference is not significant. I also have never read about any major problems as the result of the extra tension on the drive train. There are many advantages to clutching wheelies vs. powering wheelies. 1. It allows you to wheelie bikes that don’t have enough power to power it up. 2. You can wheelie at lower rpm’s, and therefore slower speeds. This allows beginners to keep a wheelie up longer, with out being at the balance point. 3. The launch is more predictable. When powering a wheelie up, the front end comes up relatively slow. Then when the front end is about 3 feet off the ground, the front end jumps up very fast under full throttle, making for a scary and unpredictable launch. When clutching up wheelies right, the front jumps up close to the balance point. From there you just play with the throttle to fine adjust the height. After a little practice, clutching becomes very predictable and not frightening at all. 4. All of the pros that I know of clutch every wheelie. You want to be like them don’t you?

How to clutch wheelies
There are a couple different methods for clutching wheelies. I prefer the second method.
Method 1: First accelerate with the clutch engaged. Then, with the throttle still opened, pull in the clutch with one finger, to the point where the clutch disengages. With the engine still under throttle, quickly let the clutch back out as the tach is rising.
Method 2: Close the throttle, and then pull the clutch in all the way, with one finger. Then twist the throttle and dump the clutch.
When learning to clutch, only rev up the engine a little bit at first before letting out the clutch. This will give you the feel for clutching. Then gradually increase the rpm’s before dumping the clutch, until the front end jumps up close to the balance point. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point. If it comes up too far, gently push the rear brake to bring the bike back forward. When clutching second and third gear wheelies, the bike may need extra help, depending on what bike it is. If clutching alone doesn’t get the wheelie up, then bounce at the same time. This is done by pushing down on the bike (with your arms and legs) at the same time you open the throttle, and then leaning back slightly when dropping the clutch. I is not a good idea to pull on the bars. Pulling up on the bars may cause the wheelie to come up funny and wobble.


Shifting gears
I don’t recommend shifting gears during a wheelie unless you are good at wheelies, and are able to use the clutch in the process. Otherwise, shifting during wheelies is hard on the transmission. It is also hard on the fork seals if you miss a shift. My advice is to learn to ride wheelies at a constant speed. Then there will be no need to shift.


How to set a wheelie down
When bringing down a wheelie, stay on the throttle until the front end is safely on the ground. If it is necessary to quickly bring down the front end, then close the throttle at first. Then as the front is coming down, open the throttle. In that way you will have a soft landing.

Step by step procedure to launch a wheelie for a beginner
1. Drop the tire pressure to about 15-20psi
2. Put the bike into first gear
3. Go about 15mph
4. Pull in the clutch
5. Rev up the engine a little and drop the clutch
6. Repeat step 5, increasing the rpm’s, until the front end comes up close to the balance point.
7. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point.
8. Cover the rear brake.
9. Stay on the throttle as it comes back down.

Balancing the wheelie from front to back
Balancing front to back is controlled by using the throttle and rear brake. It is a good idea to learn this on a quad, fiddy, or dirtbike first. If the wheelie is in front of the balance point, you must increase your speed to remain at that position. To get the wheelie back to the balance point, you must compensate with more throttle. This is the same, only in reverse, when the wheelie is behind the balance point. When behind the balance point, you must use the engine breaking/ rear brake to bring it forward to the balance point. The balance point is the position of the bike in which it neither has to speed up or slow down to remain at the same position. The height of the balance point is affected mainly by the speed of the wheelie. The faster the wheelie is, the lower the balance point. The balance point is also slightly affected by the weight distribution of the bike and the position of the rider. The object of riding a balanced wheelie is to keep the bike as close as possible to the balance point. This is done by rolling on and off the throttle, and pushing the brake if needed. With practice comes the ability to ride a smooth wheelie with out playing with the throttle/brake much.

Balancing the wheelie from side to side
Balancing sided to side is done by adjusting your body position. It is a good idea to learn this on a dirtbike, bicycle, or fiddy first. When riding wheelies over about 20mph, the bike will balance itself for the most part. It is the slow wheelies that you have to consciously balance side to side. The principle is pretty simple. Quickly lean the same direction as the bike is falling. For example, if the bike is starting to fall to the left, you would quickly lean to the left. This movement would twist the bike towards the left, thereby correcting it.

Preventing / stopping wheelie wobbles
From my experience, I think that high speed wheelie wobbles can be caused by having a squared off rear tire, not being smooth on the throttle, and/or making quick movements. Slow speed wobbles seems to be caused by high rear tire pressure, and/or not keeping the wheelie balanced from side to side.

Steering wheelies
To steer wheelies good, you need to either be at the balance point, or behind the balance point. To steer wheelies which are over about 20mph, you simply slowly lean in the direction you want to turn. However, to turn slow wheelies, you must first make the bike lean in the direction which you want to turn. For example, if you want to turn to the right, first, slowly lean to the right. Then quickly lean a little to the left / twist the handlebars a little to the left. This will cause the bike to start to fall to the right. Then, instead of completely correcting the lean, you keep the bike leaning at that angle. This will cause the bike to turn to the right.

Using the rear brake: Slowing wheelies down / 12s
Wheelies are slowed down by riding the wheelie behind the balance point. This is one of the hardest parts of learning to wheelie, not because of skill, but because of the balls required. To learn how to use the rear brake, you basically need to grow some balls, bring the wheelie up behind the balance point, and tap the brake. Soon this process will become second nature. To slow a wheelie down, you must give the bike enough throttle to get the wheelie behind the balance point. Now if you get scared and push the rear break hard at this point, it will quickly bring the wheelie forward without slowing it down much. To slow it down, you must keep it behind the balance point by gently riding the brake. To 12, you just do the same thing, only you get off the rear break enough to allow the bike to lean back on the tail. Unless you plan on parking a 12, make sure you get back on the brake before the wheelie slows down enough to stall the engine.

Riding slow wheelies
After you get good at slowing down wheelies, then you should be able to ride slow wheelies out. First of all, turn up your idle. I do slow stuff with the idle at 3.5k rpm’s. The high idle allows you to ride slow wheelies much smoother. Be careful, however, when first turning up the idle, because you will have to use the rear brake, when going slow, to keep from looping. When riding slow wheelies with the idle high, with some practice, you should be able to ride the wheelie by using the brake, and only blipping the throttle if the wheelie starts to come down.

Once you have learned all of this, all of the wheelie variations will pretty much be self explanatory.

Mkiv
01-12-2008, 02:34 PM
so after i leave we get a stunting section :screwy

the_student
01-13-2008, 05:17 PM
lmao... thats the same shit i thought. peeps told me there was a stunt section, so this is the only place i go on here.

Mkiv
01-14-2008, 08:10 AM
lmao... thats the same shit i thought. peeps told me there was a stunt section, so this is the only place i go on here.
yeah haha ill start being on here more often, just i dont have an r6 anymore so dont hate to much

MacDaddyBlake
03-02-2008, 03:21 AM
Ok - now who is posting the Rolling Endos guide?!?! :P

nyhawak
03-02-2008, 04:47 AM
lmao...

Maybe you should cite where you got this guide.

lets see..... stuntlife.:scared

MacDaddyBlake
03-02-2008, 11:50 AM
yeaaah, i knew i had seen this guide before, i wasnt sure if this was the original source :P

SIKBLU
04-29-2008, 10:37 PM
hmmm... i've been learning to power mine up... 1st gear 12k rpms... roll off and hit the throttle hard... been hopping a lot... had a couple come up pretty high but went right back down

DGrant4642
07-22-2008, 12:09 PM
nice write up....im a noob with an 01.....finally got the balls to go try poppin wheelies....will let you guys know when im up!

deasonz
08-09-2008, 01:09 PM
Stuntin is my passion now! I used to love the twisties but now its all about the Stunts.. as for the rolling Endos.. i got those down pretty good.. Just scoot up to the tank and squeeze the front brake until the back end is up to your desired height then let out on the brake a little to ride it farther.. or at least thats what I do..

mikeR6delaronde
09-02-2008, 08:37 PM
hmmm... i've been learning to power mine up... 1st gear 12k rpms... roll off and hit the throttle hard... been hopping a lot... had a couple come up pretty high but went right back down


you have to rev it to 12k to power up 1st? or do you just like it like that.
i can power up my 04 at 6.5k-7k

dirtslayer
09-02-2008, 08:51 PM
my 08 r6s will power up in first at 7ish, and second round 10...thats all i have for wheelies..
the burn-out----------hold front brake, stand up as far as u can forward, put bike in first, rev to about 2 or 3 at first and slip out the clutch till the tire spins then give it more gas while still holding the front brake tight..
you can also shift gears if you want to or begin to do rolling burn outs...
they are so fun but just a waste of money....:cheers

cbrewer323
09-25-2008, 08:24 PM
i been powering them up in first. i want to learn to clutch them i tried once and almost flew off the back of the bike had me scared shitless. any help?

SIKBLU
09-26-2008, 02:45 PM
if your in 1st, thats not the best gear... try second gear. 35 mph. bounce and clutch should come up no problem and shouldnt be too violent. here's me 3rd gear bounce clutch. this has been awhile, I can ride em higher now and longer. Just need to get someone out to take pics...

http://a883.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_4583ba8742ae1c14c04037e7064ab74a.jpg

http://a573.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/98/l_0ec5e09d3afa516dea9f9d00a301c4d4.jpg

http://a406.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/90/l_b8457ba02fe08b49811244e78916a6ad.jpg

tjroux
02-10-2009, 12:15 PM
Stoppies:

find a nice flat piece of pavement, get going about 25-35mph, and work on grabbing a hand full of front brake when your coming to a stop, consistanly increase the front brake pressure till you feel the rear tire come off the ground

Continue this till you get your desired effect

Remember, if you think your gonna dink it and go over, let off the freakin break!!!

SIKBLU
02-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Remember, if you think your gonna dink it and go over, let off the freakin break!!!

:werd:stupic

AreStinks
02-11-2009, 05:14 AM
Originally Posted by tjroux
Remember, if you think your gonna dink it and go over, let off the freakin break!!!

Funny that. An instinctive panic reaction that I've learned from riding in heavy traffic every day is grab a fist full of front break.

So I'm practising little wheelies (still reserved after I flipped it a while ago) and I'm just not giving it enough revs and I'm just not dropping the clutch fast enough. I'm sort of lifting it a foot and closing the throttle. So I get irritated with myself and drop the clutch at red line..... almost flipped. I go such a fright I floored the back break and grabbed the front.... ouch. She came down hard with front breaks locked. I almost lost a nut.

easyR6
02-11-2009, 07:30 AM
ok so what tires and tire pressure is everyone using? i know this has to make a big difference?

blindboy2k1
02-12-2009, 04:58 PM
ok so what tires and tire pressure is everyone using? i know this has to make a big difference?
20 is usually what i keep them at , unless im trying to do slower wheelies and keep them at bp , i go with about 15 , but im no where near pro, so i would say just experiment with what u find works the best with her methods

snocompton
02-12-2009, 04:58 PM
ok so what tires and tire pressure is everyone using? i know this has to make a big difference?

You can find everything you need to know at stuntride.com

ohlinsfan
08-30-2009, 09:47 PM
Check this out, its very well written:

http://www.wikihow.com/Perform-Clutch-Wheelies-on-a-Motorcycle

Also, www.wheelieteach.com for those who are not pros on one wheel

transamdemon200
01-18-2010, 01:06 AM
hmmm... i've been learning to power mine up... 1st gear 12k rpms... roll off and hit the throttle hard... been hopping a lot... had a couple come up pretty high but went right back down

so do u rather the power ups than clutch cause i been tryen to figure which one to do i been doing power ups jus drop it at 8rpms bounce then throtle but it seems like it wont stay should i change sprokets

~03~Raven
01-18-2010, 03:12 PM
so do u rather the power ups than clutch cause i been tryen to figure which one to do i been doing power ups jus drop it at 8rpms bounce then throtle but it seems like it wont stay should i change sprokets

Clutch it. Power ups are sketchy. Reason being by 8k RPM, like you said you are doing, you are more in to the power curve and the bike becomes more twitchy with throttle input. Wheelies are best controlled using the low end power. You could ride power ups and get them to BP. Though it would be a lot safer and easier to learn clutch ups and how to control them. Rear brake and throttle control will be easier to learn with clutch ups too. Find you a nice open parking lot and start slow and take it easy/slow.

Mario J
01-18-2010, 03:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx4F94DnATY

all you need to know... he will teach ^^^

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb9/mezkinman/Motivational/tantrum2.jpg

HaynMoGLi
01-18-2010, 08:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx4F94DnATY

all you need to know... he will teach ^^^

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb9/mezkinman/Motivational/tantrum2.jpg

yut ughh needs to be...:rocket

jlcornell6
01-25-2010, 02:25 AM
haha i like the how to. i had a 02 r6 and was learning had the clutch method down solid but i went down out in ramona and there went the bike so now im on an 08 and im workin on it. huge weight difference between the two.

rich0
01-25-2010, 02:46 AM
I don't stunt out of love for my bike, and pure untapped wussiness, mucho respect for guys who do, especially if you can manage it on a bike with gutless midrange like an 06+

Dakota11
01-25-2010, 06:10 AM
Im not sure if ill ever get to the point where I try. I just don't want to go flying off the back. lol

!!A2K!!
01-25-2010, 07:14 AM
if your in 1st, thats not the best gear... try second gear. 35 mph. bounce and clutch should come up no problem and shouldnt be too violent. here's me 3rd gear bounce clutch. this has been awhile, I can ride em higher now and longer. Just need to get someone out to take pics...

http://a883.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_4583ba8742ae1c14c04037e7064ab74a.jpg

http://a573.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/98/l_0ec5e09d3afa516dea9f9d00a301c4d4.jpg

http://a406.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/90/l_b8457ba02fe08b49811244e78916a6ad.jpg


air up your tire man.....it will help control it on the street

R-Silaxin
04-15-2010, 08:50 AM
Any PA stunters? Been riding for years but never really stunted. I tear up the twisties but figure I'd like to try a new way to get my adrenaline fill. I learn a lot better in person watching others... Hit me up, PM me whatevs... I'm always down and love throwin parties after rides! Let me know...

:YEA

~03~Raven
04-15-2010, 09:10 AM
Any PA stunters? Been riding for years but never really stunted. I tear up the twisties but figure I'd like to try a new way to get my adrenaline fill. I learn a lot better in person watching others... Hit me up, PM me whatevs... I'm always down and love throwin parties after rides! Let me know...

:YEA

Might have better luck on stuntlife or stuntride finding some local riders.

transamdemon200
04-17-2010, 01:55 AM
dam wish u was closer its hard finding stunters our squids out here in cali

tenchu
10-01-2010, 12:31 AM
I just don't want to go flying off the back. lol

Yeah it sucks ass, I tried to learn, I failed. After I heal, i'll try again, maybe yutugh can teach me! Haha :lmao

KevinP
10-01-2010, 12:44 AM
no stunts for me... lost 2 close friends in the same summer stuntin :( id rather be at the track any day

tenchu
10-01-2010, 01:17 AM
no stunts for me... lost 2 close friends in the same summer stuntin :( id rather be at the track any day

Sorry about your loss bro, if you don't mind me asking, how did they happen? I've always looked at stunting as more likely to get injured but less likely to get killed, but maybe I'm wrong.

PS- <--- FT. Bliss, TX 94F SPC

KevinP
10-01-2010, 01:24 AM
Sorry about your loss bro, if you don't mind me asking, how did they happen? I've always looked at stunting as more likely to get injured but less likely to get killed, but maybe I'm wrong.

PS- <--- FT. Bliss, TX 94F SPC

one was ridin a stand up at 65ish and hit a small turtle in the road... freak deal
the other flipped a stoppie, bike landed directly on him and he broke his neck, died instantly.

i actually have a buddy whos a 94F... its computer systems repair right? if my memory serves me correctly. i wana say he's out at bragg

tenchu
10-01-2010, 01:27 AM
one was ridin a stand up at 65ish and hit a small turtle in the road... freak deal
the other flipped a stoppie, bike landed directly on him and he broke his neck, died instantly.

i actually have a buddy whos a 94F... its computer systems repair right? if my memory serves me correctly. i wana say he's out at bragg

Shitty man i'm sorry to hear about both, especially the turtle, thats some shitty luck right there.

And yeah, the title for 94F has changed like 3 times since i've been in, but the few times i've actually done my "job" I just repaired/serviced NVGs and thermals. Supposedly we do BFTs an other things, but I've maybe done my job a total of 6 months in the almost 5 years I've been in.

hyethug015
11-16-2010, 02:36 PM
Ok so I've been trying to do a wheelie(even if its a mini one) for a couple of days now. I go 15-20mph clutch in rev to about 6-7k RPM then pop the clutch out. Nothing happens but the bike jerks forward with a lot of power. Front doesn't even seems like its going to raise by doing that? Can anyone throw some pointers out?

DTcrew4
11-16-2010, 03:18 PM
You'll probably need to get a little higher in the rpms. And the slip of the clutch should be really quick. Make sure you're clutching with only one or two fingers that way you can still hold on to the bike.

Here's a video with a short wheelie from last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLHjorqwfQ

I've got -1/+2 gearing.

!!A2K!!
11-16-2010, 03:35 PM
if any of you guys have facebook here is a funny little clip lol

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/video/video.php?v=1590742541810&comments

DTcrew4
11-16-2010, 03:53 PM
if any of you guys have facebook here is a funny little clip lol

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/video/video.php?v=1590742541810&comments

Are you talking about the end being funny?

!!A2K!!
11-18-2010, 12:52 PM
pretty much all of it lololol

hyethug015
11-18-2010, 10:47 PM
I was able to lift my front about 1-2ft today. Pretty dam excited i must say.

GFIDD
01-17-2011, 08:18 AM
I have a question, have any of you been stunting on carbbed bikes and have you had to make any changes to the carbs for everything to work

BIGGJERRYC
02-02-2011, 09:03 PM
When I do wheelies, which isn't often. Ill always check the roads first, better safe than sorry. And I only do it when I'm not thinking too hard about it. If I start thinking really hard about it, I get sketchy. But if I'm cruising along and in my "mode", I can stand up and go for a little while in second gear pretty comfortably.

Props to the hardcore stunters... Ill pass lol

R6_350z
02-08-2011, 12:33 PM
You'll probably need to get a little higher in the rpms. And the slip of the clutch should be really quick. Make sure you're clutching with only one or two fingers that way you can still hold on to the bike.

Here's a video with a short wheelie from last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLHjorqwfQ

I've got -1/+2 gearing.

i can hardly get my front end up what rpm's would you rev to with stock everything??? ive tried 8k and got it up a few times but kinda iffy going up past that

im in first gear btw

Jonboyzx636
02-08-2011, 01:24 PM
bikes dont do wheelies on there own you gotta put a little muscle in it along with some clutch to follow

R6_350z
02-09-2011, 11:38 AM
yeah i know you have to kinda pull it up only problem with that is when i try to pull i tend to pull more with my right hand...and thats no bueno when you come down to land..lol

Jonboyzx636
02-09-2011, 03:27 PM
yeah i know you have to kinda pull it up only problem with that is when i try to pull i tend to pull more with my right hand...and thats no bueno when you come down to land..lol

well ur prolly pulling to hard then let it be equal with the bikes power and yours. best thing to do is try some slow clutch ups in first gear to get the mist of things doin this will help out your clutch and save your from looping the bike in a 10k rpm rip a wheelie in 2nd or 3rd gear. :yuk: always remember keep your brake covered

fortsmithriders
03-01-2011, 11:36 AM
you have to rev it to 12k to power up 1st? or do you just like it like that.
i can power up my 04 at 6.5k-7k

well i have a 2007 r6 and cant power mine up in first at all but although if im in second at like 50mph i cant clutch it and it comes up but then goes right back down

ridick_bowen
03-01-2011, 11:43 AM
I can clutch mine up in 4th gear. +10 bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R6_350z
03-01-2011, 03:24 PM
practiced a bit this weekend and i finally figured out how to pop the front end up pretty easy! now all i need to practice is throttle control

pretty funny first time i tried it i got the front wheel up and was like ok cool give it more throttle next time....second time i gave it to much throttle and was 11 o'clock and was like o fcuk to high...SLAM!!!..:( my balls...my bike...it hurt!

lol..any suggestions for throttle control/balance??

dvog133
03-01-2011, 05:23 PM
nice write up....im a noob with an 01.....finally got the balls to go try poppin wheelies....will let you guys know when im up!

Take alot of nice pics of your bike first... :lmao
Good luck though! Be safe.

ridick_bowen
03-02-2011, 08:11 AM
lol..any suggestions for throttle control/balance??

Go cheaper mode. Drop the rear to 25 psi and work on slow speed wheelies.

~03~Raven
03-03-2011, 12:47 PM
practiced a bit this weekend and i finally figured out how to pop the front end up pretty easy! now all i need to practice is throttle control

pretty funny first time i tried it i got the front wheel up and was like ok cool give it more throttle next time....second time i gave it to much throttle and was 11 o'clock and was like o fcuk to high...SLAM!!!..:( my balls...my bike...it hurt!

lol..any suggestions for throttle control/balance??
Yea it's pretty scary learning at first. But unless you have someone there who saw and told you honestly how high you came up it probably wasn't that high. Just 1-2 feet off the ground feels crazy as hell for a little bit. Get used to it coming up first, then work on keeping your throttle steady and learning to tap the brake to bring it down. Not saying learn by chasing. But learn to pick it up and feel comfortable picking it up, then learn how to not just chop in and out of throttle all violently, learn to use the brake to control height and sit it back down. remember small taps on the brake. You smash it and it will smash you. :LOL The one thing I read a million times was to bring it up and keep bringing it up higher. IDK I had to take baby steps with squidly wheelies before I got comfortable with even that. The key to slowing them down is being behind balance and using the brake to keep it at or behind balance. Honestly man it's one of those things people can tell you everything and their take on it and how they did it, I know I did, and none of it will amount to anything once you actually do it and feel it for yourself. ****EDIT*** side to side balance, I started with like 15lbs in the rear and it's more stable but will still dip and turn. Then once you get more comfortable slowly increase the rear pressure back up. Most of the pros are running 30-40+ PSI.

This is a shitty pick of me my buddy caught right as I was grabbing the brake and catching idle. Horrible looking body position but that lot isn't as flat as it seems and bike always wants to come up and go to the right there. So gotta put pressure on the left to just stay straight. LOL
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185814_956950411708_16725322_48537176_7558026_n.jp g

R6_350z
03-04-2011, 09:54 AM
Yea it's pretty scary learning at first. But unless you have someone there who saw and told you honestly how high you came up it probably wasn't that high. Just 1-2 feet off the ground feels crazy as hell for a little bit. Get used to it coming up first, then work on keeping your throttle steady and learning to tap the brake to bring it down. Not saying learn by chasing. But learn to pick it up and feel comfortable picking it up, then learn how to not just chop in and out of throttle all violently, learn to use the brake to control height and sit it back down. remember small taps on the brake. You smash it and it will smash you. :LOL The one thing I read a million times was to bring it up and keep bringing it up higher. IDK I had to take baby steps with squidly wheelies before I got comfortable with even that. The key to slowing them down is being behind balance and using the brake to keep it at or behind balance. Honestly man it's one of those things people can tell you everything and their take on it and how they did it, I know I did, and none of it will amount to anything once you actually do it and feel it for yourself. ****EDIT*** side to side balance, I started with like 15lbs in the rear and it's more stable but will still dip and turn. Then once you get more comfortable slowly increase the rear pressure back up. Most of the pros are running 30-40+ PSI.

This is a shitty pick of me my buddy caught right as I was grabbing the brake and catching idle. Horrible looking body position but that lot isn't as flat as it seems and bike always wants to come up and go to the right there. So gotta put pressure on the left to just stay straight. LOL
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my friend was recording me and a few friends while we were doing it....i was actually surprised on how high i got on some of them...i know what you mean though when you feel like your high but your really not...lol

some of them i held for a while but those werent as high.....im still at the point where when i pop up i kinda panic and let go of the throttle

im going to practice again this weekend would you recommend putting your left foot on the pass peg?? im kinda hessitant to try this because on those wheelies where i got pretty high i feel the bike moving from side to side not sure how to balance it yet

KDuB
06-09-2011, 08:26 AM
I want to wheelie!!!!

Dakota11
06-09-2011, 08:46 AM
Ive tried and failed

ByeByeDSM
06-10-2011, 11:04 AM
I want to wheelie!!!!

I can wheelie. I also know how to wreck.

yamaR6281
06-28-2011, 04:26 PM
i can bring up 2nd with ease... but i can't bring up 1st more than 1-2 feet.
I don't want to do fast wheelie anymore so I'm back into the lot. Should I get a bigger sprocket? right now I'm on stock. it's a 2005 btw

Panici
06-28-2011, 08:16 PM
The only wheelies I do are when i'm pulling out of the pits.
WOT in first and in a full tuck. :fact

Then I shift so I don't flip over :D

~03~Raven
06-28-2011, 09:22 PM
i can bring up 2nd with ease... but i can't bring up 1st more than 1-2 feet.
I don't want to do fast wheelie anymore so I'm back into the lot. Should I get a bigger sprocket? right now I'm on stock. it's a 2005 btw

Bigger will make it pick up easier and pull harder but will be more sensitive and you will be choppy on it for a bit. Just learn stock then gear it. Turn your idle up to 3-3500 and get after it. You can at least get BP and idle down on stock before you gear it.

KDuB
06-28-2011, 09:31 PM
So is it easier to pull it up in 2nd? I've been trying in 1st (only a handful of times) and I'm only gettn about a foot maybe a hair more off the ground. I go from a stop till I'm going about 15-20mph and pull in the clutch rev up to idk maybe 8ish and dump it and just pop up a bit.
I know I should prob rev higher but I think the noise of my exhaust is scarring me lol.
Should I try in 2nd or keep trying in 1st

P.s. I'm stock geared

KDuB
06-28-2011, 09:32 PM
Oh and I'm a big dude... Does that matter lol. I'm 6'3" and 250ish

ByeByeDSM
06-29-2011, 08:08 AM
I know I should prob rev higher but I think the noise of my exhaust is scarring me lol.
Should I try in 2nd or keep trying in 1st

P.s. I'm stock geared

It's funny you say that because I just have a yoshi slip-on and one of the things I realized when I first started bringing my front end up consistently is that the bike is going to be making a shit load of noise. If you're down in the quiet, cruising rpm area it will hop up at best.

2nd gear roll ons... 7-8k rpm....lock your wrist into the throttle at a set position, then as you slip the clutch (thing of it as pulling the trigger with your left pointer finger and letting it pop off), slap the throttle close to WOT. That should bring the front end up, but don't keep the throttle pegged or you will loop. After you get that down, you have to learn how to feather the throttle up into the balance point without flipping. :D

If you think you can hang with first, it comes up a lot easier because you're not moving forward. If you wanna slip the clutch, try it around 4k using the same ideas I Just mentioned. Once you get that down, move it up to 5k. You really don't need to be higher than that to get it up if you're throwing the clutch right.
It's not that hard, but I'll admitt that even after a year of riding with countless wheelies I still only pick up about 1 in 5 wheelies that are worth looking at.

ByeByeDSM
06-29-2011, 08:09 AM
Oh and I'm a big dude... Does that matter lol. I'm 6'3" and 250ish

Your weight will only effect your overall acceleration and your balance point. Having extra weight can be a benefit to wheelies because if you move that weight to the aft of the bike, the front becomes lighter and more willing to fly. Scoot back in your seat a little bit and give it a few more goes. I'm certain you'll understand what I'm talking about very quickly.

Good luck :D

ByeByeDSM
06-29-2011, 08:14 AM
I go from a stop till I'm going about 15-20mph and pull in the clutch rev up to idk maybe 8ish and dump it and just pop up a bit.


Also, just for clarity, you don't want your rev-up to be around 8,000 rpm. You want the bike to be in gear, cruising, around 8000 rpm in 2nd gear. That's probably going to be close to 30-35 mph. The actually slip of your clutch plus the throttle spike will probably put the bike up over 10,000 rpm or more in 2nd gear. Depending on how high you push the front end off the intial pop up depends on how far down the rpms will fall back to your initial cruising rpm. It also correlates to how much throttle you will have to maintain to keep the bike up.

I don't recommend chasing wheelies out after you've picked it up. It's not bad to do until you're comfortable with the front actually being up, but what I'm learning is that you want to focus on the come up more than riding out a low, high speed wheelie.

yamaR6281
06-29-2011, 08:54 AM
i don't look at how fast or what rpm i'm in. i just feel it. I went out and practice it all night last night in 1st. closes i got was 10 o-clock.
i practice stand up only and i tend to go much higher than sitting down. sitting down was there i had problem of getting it up higher than 2 feet max.

as for second gear, I can pull close to balance point majority of the time. Still trying to feel balance point, but the feeling is too weird.

krause95
01-26-2012, 09:55 PM
With a 06 r6 I literally cannot power wheelie..... from my understanding its because of the throttle setup and how its ran from a servo now and not wire... I can get it up a few feet in 1st with clutch but then it goes down. im prob going like 30ish for the clutch.

any advise from someone who has a 06+ r6 thanks

k5gixx
02-12-2012, 03:39 AM
I just bought an 06 r6 so within the next week I'll let you know


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k5gixx
02-26-2012, 09:11 PM
Krause95, my 06 will power wheelie. It's a bit tougher than my 05 gixxer but it still comes up.


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ridick_bowen
02-26-2012, 09:27 PM
Throwing on a 55t rear sprocket will make wheelies super easy. I happen to have one for sale right meow. Hint hint.

k5gixx
02-26-2012, 10:31 PM
Yea that'll do the trick haha


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