bkchun99 04-22-2004, 09:44 AM Ok gentlemen! I know there have been several topics on this subject, but I want to know what qualifies as the "best" frame slider for an '03 R6, on the basis of funtionality (how well it works), aesthetics (how good it looks), no cutting or drilling (self explanatory), and price ($$).
I'm willing to shovel out more money for a "better" set of frame sliders as long as I know they work, and work well.
If you guys have any pictures, it would be appreciated. Any input would help. Thanks.
In all honesty dont get the ones that only have brackets. They will bend or snap and you will be angry. If you must get them I would stick with a well known brand like Intuitive.
penfold 04-22-2004, 11:33 AM I still think the brackets on these Sato's are hefty enough to prevent them from snapping bending. I little pricey but if you want no drill ones, then IMO, this is the way to go.
From the bottom of their page....
Do not require to modify the fairings with our R6 '03-'04 frame sliders.
http://www.satoracing.com/r603frameslider.htm
http://www.satoracing.com/03r6sliderw.jpg
plastics off, right side
http://www.satoracing.com/03r6framesliderr2.jpg
plastics on, right side
http://www.satoracing.com/03r6framesliderr1.jpg
left side
http://www.satoracing.com/03r6framesliderl.jpg
bkchun99 04-22-2004, 11:55 AM penfold:
Do you have the Sato frame sliders?...and if so, how do you life them?
Thanks.
penfold 04-22-2004, 12:18 PM don't have them but once I do scrape enough together to get them, I will get them. If you look at the brackets on other "street" type sliders and these, these Sato ones are about 2x as thick it looks like. Would probably need to get specific measurements from the manufacturers if you really wanted to know the actual difference
R6_Tweekin 04-23-2004, 01:29 AM Here's some other one's that are just as hefty if not even more. I'm planning on getting some in the near future. And compared to some other no-cut ones, $89 doesn't sound that bad a deal.....
here's the link to the product:
http://www.motovationusa.com/2003r6.html#
:jacked
smiko0124 04-23-2004, 09:29 AM you guys are ALL gonna be pissed when you buy the no cuts, drop your bike, and do worse damage than if you wouldnt have had any sliders on... just cut the ferrings, its not that big a deal fellas, and it will actually help
hybridreams 04-26-2004, 05:30 PM Explain...
bkchun99 04-26-2004, 06:25 PM you guys are ALL gonna be pissed when you buy the no cuts, drop your bike, and do worse damage than if you wouldnt have had any sliders on... just cut the ferrings, its not that big a deal fellas, and it will actually help
how do you figure?
quikr6 04-26-2004, 11:51 PM hey penfold,
i saw the pix of your sato no cuts and i was wondering if you could post some instructions for installing them. i just bought some shogun no cuts and i'm sure the installation of the shoguns are pretty similar. do i have to worry about tightening torque or other crap?
fireblade31003 04-27-2004, 05:34 AM Guess you never had a bike to drop with frame sliders? Anyone can live with a scratch but a full crack? Just for tipping over its worth the money.
Russell 04-27-2004, 09:37 AM R6_Tweekin Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:29 am Post subject:
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Here's some other one's that are just as hefty if not even more. I'm planning on getting some in the near future. And compared to some other no-cut ones, $89 doesn't sound that bad a deal.....
Motovationusa are $30 cheaper than Sato.
The main difference I see is the Sato uses 2 bolts on the right slider.
Does this really make it a lot stronger??
penfold 04-27-2004, 09:39 AM Motovationusa are $30 cheaper than Sato.
The main difference I see is the Sato uses 2 bolts on the right slider.
Does this really make it a lot stronger??
ya, with the second bolt, there is no where for it to bend. that provides all the support for that cantilevered section
loki1313 04-27-2004, 10:31 AM Motovationusa are $30 cheaper than Sato.
The main difference I see is the Sato uses 2 bolts on the right slider.
Does this really make it a lot stronger??
ya, with the second bolt, there is no where for it to bend. that provides all the support for that cantilevered section
see heres my prob with your statement pen. the sato sticks out to have the sider where it wont cut just like the other brands. that is where its going to bend. just like all the other ones(yes even like the shogun ones i have) i dont think the second bolt is really going to strengthen the point where all the stress will be put when it does hit the ground, which will be on the slider side of the bolt. just my opinion. i know my shoguns are almost 1/2 inch thick. they are pretty dam strong and i hope i never have to use them :cheers
loki1313 04-27-2004, 10:34 AM you guys are ALL gonna be pissed when you buy the no cuts, drop your bike, and do worse damage than if you wouldnt have had any sliders on... just cut the ferrings, its not that big a deal fellas, and it will actually help
how do you figure?
well form another thread we have on here somewhere, basically the bracket that sticks out to make em no cut is a weak point. if it hits and the brackets bends it can actually damage part of the frame. how bad depends on how hard it hits. but mine arent there to protect my bike from a hi speed downer. it there just for a stupid mistake like dropin it while sittin still. i have shogun no cuts myself but if u want the best protection get the ones where u have to cut the fairing :cheers
Mikeeh76 04-27-2004, 12:09 PM I still would also have to agree that the frame sliders that require cuting the plastic will offer on any event that you end up sideways on a high speed turn or any high speed accident.
But the sliders that don't require cutting will only be sufficient enough to save your plastics in any event you drop your bike in a stationary position or a really slow accident.
I have the Shogun no-mod sliders and I dropped my bike this weekend (Rear Stand No-No) and that thing really worked, saved my plastics from any scratches and the offset wasn't bent at all. But I still won't trust it on any high speed spills. Only thing that got damaged was my brake lever, which curled inwards.
smiko0124 04-27-2004, 12:09 PM amen loki and thanks for explaining, i havent been on in a while and was just getting ready to answer his question. good job
loki1313 04-27-2004, 12:14 PM amen loki and thanks for explaining, i havent been on in a while and was just getting ready to answer his question. good job
i figured this is what u would say so i just did it for ya, defenitly save u some typing :cheers
smiko0124 04-27-2004, 12:30 PM taking one off my post count too biznatch!
loki1313 04-27-2004, 02:55 PM i see your makin up for it by postin more anyways so stop your bitchin :FU
BROADUS 05-03-2004, 06:54 PM I put a pair of LSL frame slider on and they look and work great. I had a friend with the same pair on his bike wreck and they worked as expected...good. He low slided and the "no cut" frame sliders kept the bike from tearing up the frame. It didn't even scratch the frame. They are a little expensive but well worth it. Check them out at the speigler web site.
bkchun99 05-10-2004, 11:47 AM Thanks for all the input guys.
Slowestrider 05-31-2004, 06:22 PM I am not sure if the statement about no cut frame slider is stronger. Here is my reason:
On my 99R1, I heard store of about swing arm bolt problem with some accident with race clutch protectors. So I decided to buy the Moko clutch protector from Claus, in Germnany. That clucth protetor has a mounting bracket, similar design when compares with frame sliders shown here.
My 99R1 rested, after 31,000+ canyon miles. The accident was so bad that I still can't recall most of that day, as of now. Any way, the clutch and the frame didn't damage. That clutch protector was then installed on my 02R1. I highsided that bike out of turn 2 at a local track. The bike was totalled. Again, that clutch protector again did it's job. :roll: No bend frame.
StarChild 06-07-2004, 01:08 AM The best frame sliders for the 2003 - 2004 R6...
Lockhart Phillips "No Cut" Carbon Fiber Frame Sliders
http://www.newportcycleparts.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NCP&Product_Code=428-6007-LP
Mr. M
SuperSpud 08-07-2004, 09:35 PM No cut frame sliders cannot provide the best protection. The impact is going to bend whatever piece of metal you have between your bike and the slider. I just bought motosliders.com sliders because I have crash tested them on a SVS and they work. Dave Rosno, an AMA and other event superbike racer uses them on his R6 and can testify to there results. They use premium quality material and it does the job. My lowsided bike would have been without a scratch with motosliders, had it not been for the cartwheeling. I have no affiliation with them, just deep apreciation for their work. Cutting the frame is a minor problem for me when greater protection is offered. So cut the plastic and get RRRR down..
EvilRsix 08-08-2004, 10:57 AM i have the sato racing frame sliders. one of them snapped off it and dirt crash. but the metal never got bent. i assume the would have worked well on the street.
BROADUS 08-08-2004, 12:07 PM I have the LSL fram sliders. They look great and yesterday I found out how great they protect. I low sided around 65-70 mph with my knee down and the fairing and frame are untouched. If they could have only protected the sub frame that got snapped off they would be perfect!!
But they actually worked awesome.
panzer07 06-10-2007, 11:00 PM LSL sliders not only do they look great but on there website they had them on a GSXR that was dropped at 60 MPH and slider was melted but bike very intact considering the speed . I have the blue ones and they where a cakewalk to install .
carparts009 06-11-2007, 07:05 PM +1 for the LSL's
kiggy74 07-09-2007, 06:51 PM No such thing. Just cut the plastic, you'll thank yourself eventually.
CroatianSensation 07-10-2007, 02:35 AM IMO!! seeing is believing so NO CUT sliders work awesome... check moto911.com for their shogun no cut sliders and they have pix of ppl that wrecked with them on.. looks great. works great. and no cutting.
z06boy 07-10-2007, 07:12 AM I put the Shogun no-cut sliders on my wife's 07' R6 and the other day she dropped it in our driveway. Small scuff on slider...small scuff on exhaust...NO damage to anything else at all. No that's not a lowside etc....but they more than paid for themselves when she dropped it and kept the plastic off of the concrete. :toocool:
Paytheon 07-10-2007, 07:52 AM If you wreck a bike to the point a no-cut frame slider malfuntions....you pretty much totaled your bike anyways. You probably won't have a front end, forks, rear cowling, etc. Unless those cut frame sliders offers that protection too?
b.burton 07-10-2007, 08:04 AM www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=486046#post486046
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