: 1st Wheelie Practice vid!!!
HBHarrison 07-05-2009, 06:59 PM Just started practicing wheelies about a month ago. Dont get out to often to try, but heres a little video i did today. Tell me what ya guys think. Pointers an tips an bashing allowed lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtP2emufQMM
Enjoy
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chop13chop 07-05-2009, 07:05 PM Lean back. Any farther forward and you'll be on top of the tank. Keep practicing one day you'll be running BP woolies.
HBHarrison 07-05-2009, 07:10 PM Lean back. Any farther forward and you'll be on top of the tank. Keep practicing one day you'll be running BP woolies.
Lean back as its coming up? Or lean back before i even get on the throttle?
chop13chop 07-05-2009, 07:22 PM Lean back the whole time. It'll help the front end come up easier.
HBHarrison 07-05-2009, 07:25 PM Lean back the whole time. It'll help the front end come up easier.
right on. Gotcha
03r6special 07-05-2009, 07:25 PM i would also suggest doing 2nd gear clutch up wheelies.... i started with 1st and after i got pissed from smashing my nuts on the tank, i started doing them in 2nd gear. they just feel better. and not as torquie or touchy.
HBHarrison 07-05-2009, 07:31 PM i would also suggest doing 2nd gear clutch up wheelies.... i started with 1st and after i got pissed from smashing my nuts on the tank, i started doing them in 2nd gear. they just feel better. and not as torquie or touchy.
I have try'd in 2nd but it barely comes up!! If at all!! I rev the hell outta it an nothing. They feel like crap to me...but then again i guess im doing something wrong. In first i am at about 4000rpm pull in clutch...rev to about 10,000 an then it comes up. In 2nd i have try'd 6000 dump to about 12000 an nothing. i dont wanna be going so fast to get it up
03r6special 07-05-2009, 07:37 PM i would say 2nd gear 40-45 mph and just start low on Rpm until you feel confident... they key for me was using one finger on the clutch... for some reason it allows the clutch to catch just enough to pop them up. but only do what you feel comfortable with.
mikeR6delaronde 07-05-2009, 07:39 PM go anywhere between 60kmph-10 in 2nd, stand up so you can see, then give it a good bounce and roll on the throttle, clutching up wheelies is really hard on your bike. and get it to the balance point, first gear on a stock bike is super touchy and sketchy. when i learnt 2nd gear stand ups. it was like i was 5 at christmas time, just wheeling past cars on the highway. i was like you at the start, you'll get it. and maybe dont do it in a parking lot like that. go to a road where no on will see. i got caught doing a wheelie, got careless driving and lost my license for 5 months, and a 250$ fine.
but keep it up
HBHarrison 07-05-2009, 07:51 PM i would say 2nd gear 40-45 mph and just start low on Rpm until you feel confident... they key for me was using one finger on the clutch... for some reason it allows the clutch to catch just enough to pop them up. but only do what you feel comfortable with.
I do use 1 finger for the clutch. It does feel alot better. And i guess i will try the 2nd gear faster wheelie. tHANKS
HBHarrison 07-05-2009, 07:54 PM go anywhere between 60kmph-10 in 2nd, stand up so you can see, then give it a good bounce and roll on the throttle, clutching up wheelies is really hard on your bike. and get it to the balance point, first gear on a stock bike is super touchy and sketchy. when i learnt 2nd gear stand ups. it was like i was 5 at christmas time, just wheeling past cars on the highway. i was like you at the start, you'll get it. and maybe dont do it in a parking lot like that. go to a road where no on will see. i got caught doing a wheelie, got careless driving and lost my license for 5 months, and a 250$ fine.
but keep it up
i CRAP MYSELF when i try an stand up lol Feels so ...not right...lol i dunno But i guess im gonna have to do the 2nd gear wheelie. As for the parking lot ticket, what? Thats crazy. I always thought on private property (aka a mall parking lot) u cant get a ticket like it was on Government roads. I know for a fact that u dont have to follow the stop signs or paths in the lot. All they can do is bann u from the place. Wonder if i could call the cops an ask if i would get a ticket for gettin caught? lol
blindboy2k1 07-07-2009, 12:39 AM If u want to do wheelies slower then get a 520 kit(-1 +2) ,when I did this I was able to launch 2 be gear standups at 15 mph with ease
frankieg22x 07-07-2009, 03:56 AM I would also try to bounce 2nd and 3rd. I like 3rd since it's not really touchy and you can keep it smooth for the most part.
2nd - Bring it to around 8-10k (50mph) bounce with your legs and get on the throttle
3rd - Bring it to 10k (75-80mph) bounce with your legs and get on the throttle
no clutch at all btw
frankieg22x 07-07-2009, 03:57 AM i CRAP MYSELF when i try an stand up lol Feels so ...not right...lol i dunno But i guess im gonna have to do the 2nd gear wheelie. As for the parking lot ticket, what? Thats crazy. I always thought on private property (aka a mall parking lot) u cant get a ticket like it was on Government roads. I know for a fact that u dont have to follow the stop signs or paths in the lot. All they can do is bann u from the place. Wonder if i could call the cops an ask if i would get a ticket for gettin caught? lol
It feels really awkward at first but then it becomes second nature to do stand ups.
My wheelie career is over but good luck
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 05:56 AM It feels really awkward at first but then it becomes second nature to do stand ups.
My wheelie career is over but good luck
So i hear lol but getting used to it is the hard part.
Why is your WHEELIE CAREER over?
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 05:57 AM If u want to do wheelies slower then get a 520 kit(-1 +2) ,when I did this I was able to launch 2 be gear standups at 15 mph with ease
read my sig lol I have a 520 -1 +2 conversion already
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 06:01 AM after watching myself...looks like im hitting the rear brake as soon as it comes up. Probably the reason i cant hold it more then 1 second lol Practice practice practice i guess
frankieg22x 07-07-2009, 06:14 AM because this is what happened.....
frankieg22x 07-07-2009, 06:15 AM but that ^^^ gave me an excuse to switch it up to this...
http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93130
rchristian56 07-07-2009, 06:19 AM Standing is a good start I know it may feel strange at first but you wll have much better controle.
Make sure the pegs are in the midle of your feet, not on the balls like a racer, you need to have stability and the pegs being in the midle of your feet wil give you more control on the brakes and you will be more planted in your stance.
First gear, second gear, where ever I dont think it matters for me, stock gearing is easier in frist I think, second with stock gearing you need to hop the bike and I feel that makes it harder for me.
On my R6 I only have to give it trottle in first to get it up but if I am under 30 mph I only spin the rear wheele so I have to be doing 45-50 just to power it up.
Oh and standing up, when you get better at wheelieing will make it so you can see where you are going and sometimes thats important!!
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 07:21 AM When u say standing on the pegs...are you talking passenger pegs or regular pegs? Some people say passenger an some say regular.
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 07:22 AM because this is what happened.....
Damn....shit looks painful. Looks like you were going fast when u crashed
frankieg22x 07-07-2009, 08:09 AM Damn....shit looks painful. Looks like you were going fast when u crashed
picked it up in 3rd and had it steady at 80. After that was a blur, I can't remember anything else about that night.
rchristian56 07-07-2009, 10:50 AM I would start on the rivers pegs..
CoRNDoG R6 07-07-2009, 12:36 PM Nice wheelies! Me and my friend just started practicing wheelies on saturday and they look alot like yours so far. I have stomp grip pads on my side fairings and they rashed me up pretty bad when i would come down. I have to learn to avoid squeezing the tank too much or remove the tank pads. I busted both tank side covers from the screw tabs in the process, so avoiding a tight grip is probably my answer.
It was a bit late in the afternoon, so i couldnt get real good pics or video. But i will have something to post up next time i go out.Either way, i got addicted to it and now i just cant wait to go out and try some more. Lets just be careful out there!
cashmoneyflo 07-07-2009, 12:48 PM sounds like ur riding the clutch a little. try popping it more. using one finger makes it a little easier for that. u can also adjust ur lever so u dont need to squeeze the clutch all the way to the handle bar. i have mine out as far as possible
NoHoR6 07-07-2009, 12:48 PM Nice wheelies! Me and my friend just started practicing wheelies on saturday and they look alot like yours so far. I have stomp grip pads on my side fairings and they rashed me up pretty bad when i would come down. I have to learn to avoid squeezing the tank too much or remove the tank pads. I busted both tank side covers from the screw tabs in the process, so avoiding a tight grip is probably my answer.
It was a bit late in the afternoon, so i couldnt get real good pics or video. But i will have something to post up next time i go out.Either way, i got addicted to it and now i just cant wait to go out and try some more. Lets just be careful out there!
did a wheelie on the freeway, came up to stand up and kinda squeezed the tank with my legs, next thing i know, there goes my fairing from under the thank. just broke right off, turned around saw it laying on the freeway, didnt bother to pick it up. im gonna get carbon fiber ones. thats the 3rd time the undertank pieces broke off.
guppy8290 07-07-2009, 01:05 PM make sure you are DUMPING the clutch and not slipping it. it sounds like you are letting the clutch out a little bit slow and not just releasing it
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 03:58 PM make sure you are DUMPING the clutch and not slipping it. it sounds like you are letting the clutch out a little bit slow and not just releasing it
I will try the DUMP and not ease it out next time im out. Thanks for the tips gentleman
wags06R6 07-07-2009, 04:21 PM are you juts givin it some throttle then lettin off and hittin it hard? thinkin about tryin but not sure which way is the best yet
HBHarrison 07-07-2009, 04:25 PM are you juts givin it some throttle then lettin off and hittin it hard? thinkin about tryin but not sure which way is the best yet
No, Im going about 4000rpm pullin in the clutch an reving it up to about 10,000rpm an letting out the clutch
HIrideR6 07-11-2009, 07:02 AM hey bruh how u doin on them wheelies ? U getting that front wheel up yet ? I noticed u have a -1/+2 set up, it should help u a lot on POWER wheelies and it should come right up with the clutch wheelies in 1st gear.
It looks like u have the right idea, BUT it sounds to me like u are giving it throttle AND (slowly) dumpin' the clutch....try holding the clutch in....rev it up and in a split second dump the clutch. Just don't rev too crazy cuz that front wheel will come right up and might scare u the first time u rev it too high.
In your video, u can hear how u sorta did it right at 1:09, the one following that one (the last one in ur video) if u hear it (especially in slow motion) u can hear how u gave it throttle with the clutch pulled in for that split second and then dumped the clutch instead of how the other ones sound with dropping the clutch and revving it up.
HBHarrison 07-11-2009, 04:43 PM hey bruh how u doin on them wheelies ? U getting that front wheel up yet ? I noticed u have a -1/+2 set up, it should help u a lot on POWER wheelies and it should come right up with the clutch wheelies in 1st gear.
It looks like u have the right idea, BUT it sounds to me like u are giving it throttle AND (slowly) dumpin' the clutch....try holding the clutch in....rev it up and in a split second dump the clutch. Just don't rev too crazy cuz that front wheel will come right up and might scare u the first time u rev it too high.
In your video, u can hear how u sorta did it right at 1:09, the one following that one (the last one in ur video) if u hear it (especially in slow motion) u can hear how u gave it throttle with the clutch pulled in for that split second and then dumped the clutch instead of how the other ones sound with dropping the clutch and revving it up.
Yea..i have only gone out maybe once since...only on the way to work taking back roads (been raining everyday an cold as hell lately) nd try'd dumpin the clutch an yea... your right... i am releasing it slowly. Now when i just let it go it comes RIGHT up lol But then again i cant hold it. Once it comes up i can only hold it a few seconds a the MOST. I tried in 2nd gear at 8000rpm an try'd but... its coming up slowly but nowhere near as it in first. Now my question is, should i stick to trying it in 1st until i get it down, or 2nd an go down to trying them back in 1st?
tfs32 07-11-2009, 11:12 PM :popcorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmVwVuuFnc
this is taken with my cell phone but it works:popcorn:
HBHarrison 07-12-2009, 08:45 PM :popcorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmVwVuuFnc
this is taken with my cell phone but it works:popcorn:
Nice job, so how are you doing it? what gear an rpm ect.?
tfs32 07-12-2009, 11:45 PM Nice job, so how are you doing it? what gear an rpm ect.?
I shift through the gears, I bring it up at any RPM, but I have be riding wheelies for around 18 years so I can do them on just about any bike
BUt I am in 1st at low speed like that but most of the time I start in 2nd at about 6k and first about 4k but I dont let the RPMs get over 12k so I can control it better, just go to a VERY LONG stretch of road and take it easy, and make sure to stay calm just in case you come back to far so you can hit the brake:D
HIrideR6 07-12-2009, 11:56 PM Yea..i have only gone out maybe once since...only on the way to work taking back roads (been raining everyday an cold as hell lately) nd try'd dumpin the clutch an yea... your right... i am releasing it slowly. Now when i just let it go it comes RIGHT up lol But then again i cant hold it. Once it comes up i can only hold it a few seconds a the MOST. I tried in 2nd gear at 8000rpm an try'd but... its coming up slowly but nowhere near as it in first. Now my question is, should i stick to trying it in 1st until i get it down, or 2nd an go down to trying them back in 1st?
Stay practicing in 1st gear brother. If you practice and master 1st gear wheelies then its time to move on to 2nd gear. I know it seems boring but its easier once you get it up right and when its time for 2nd gear it'll just be second nature cuz you'll feel the RPM and the throttle control.
Careful on coming down too hard and try to keep well balanced when you come up. As far as holding out the wheelie, just find that right throttle position, dont even mess with the clutch once you let go of it, just be ready to press the rear brake if you feel you're gonna flip it over. When you get that right throttle position you will be able to ride it out.
Important thing is finding the right road, no traffic, no barriers or anything that will get in your way.
ScottIR6 07-13-2009, 02:55 PM I shift through the gears, I bring it up at any RPM, but I have be riding wheelies for around 18 years so I can do them on just about any bike
BUt I am in 1st at low speed like that but most of the time I start in 2nd at about 6k and first about 4k but I dont let the RPMs get over 12k so I can control it better, just go to a VERY LONG stretch of road and take it easy, and make sure to stay calm just in case you come back to far so you can hit the brake:D
post a video
tfs32 07-13-2009, 03:02 PM post a video
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:popcorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmVwVuuFnc
this is taken with my cell phone but it works:popcorn:
you have to listen close I took this with my cell phone
and listen to the guy talk at the end
ScottIR6 07-13-2009, 06:43 PM ↓↓↓↓↓
you have to listen close I took this with my cell phone
and listen to the guy talk at the end
nice, do you use the clutch when u shift or just bang it up?
tfs32 07-14-2009, 08:53 AM nice, do you use the clutch when u shift or just bang it up?
I use the clutch, if I dont and I shift the bike jumps around too much and I could flip it, so clutch it
cashmoneyflo 07-14-2009, 09:04 AM I shift through the gears, I bring it up at any RPM, but I have be riding wheelies for around 18 years so I can do them on just about any bike
BUt I am in 1st at low speed like that but most of the time I start in 2nd at about 6k and first about 4k but I dont let the RPMs get over 12k so I can control it better, just go to a VERY LONG stretch of road and take it easy, and make sure to stay calm just in case you come back to far so you can hit the brake:D
the point of a wheelie is to balance it so ur not gaining speed but staying pretty steady. looks like ur just chasing ur wheelies and use the shifting to be able to keep it up longer instead of redlining a gear
ScottIR6 07-14-2009, 06:26 PM the point of a wheelie is to balance it so ur not gaining speed but staying pretty steady. looks like ur just chasing ur wheelies and use the shifting to be able to keep it up longer instead of redlining a gear
i agree with that, but i also think shifting in a wheelie is somewhat technical, so i think its pretty cool to be able to do that.
tfs32 07-14-2009, 09:14 PM the point of a wheelie is to balance it so ur not gaining speed but staying pretty steady. looks like ur just chasing ur wheelies and use the shifting to be able to keep it up longer instead of redlining a gear
I can do that BUT I dont like to get my bike in the high RPMs when it is up that high......oil pick up is not the greatest, so I try not to get the rpms high,
they last time I did a 55MPH wheelie for longer than a mile my oil light came on, so I dont stay in 1 gear, its hard on the bike
but yes you are right it is about balance, im not chasing my front end I just want to pick up speed, my next mod is Sprockets so I can slow my bike down in wheelies and bring my powerband lower in my RPM range, I just hate to have her at redline in a wheelie
cashmoneyflo 07-14-2009, 09:20 PM I can do that BUT I dont like to get my bike in the high RPMs when it is up that high......oil pick up is not the greatest, so I try not to get the rpms high,
they last time I did a 55MPH wheelie for longer than a mile my oil light came on, so I dont stay in 1 gear, its hard on the bike
but yes you are right it is about balance, im not chasing my front end I just want to pick up speed, my next mod is Sprockets so I can slow my bike down in wheelies and bring my powerband lower in my RPM range, I just hate to have her at redline in a wheelie
add some more oil. sprockets wont make you go slower
fyi not being a dick just letting you know
tfs32 07-15-2009, 12:42 PM add some more oil. sprockets wont make you go slower
fyi not being a dick just letting you know
I know you are not and neither am I, but sprockets do slow you down in a way, the bring you top end lower in the rpm range, if I put a 56tooth sprocket me bike will top out at like 70mph, but i will have usable power lower in the powerband
and as far as oil, I dont ride wheelies all the time, I have the right amount of oil in there, too much oil is also bad on the motor
Let this be said Wheelies are fun, if you know what you are doing, but they can get out of hand easily
KYLE22 07-15-2009, 05:27 PM Everyone starts somewhere! just keep practicing.
I've only been riding the lots for about 5 weeks now with some good riders that have given me some tips.
If you plan on doing wheelies the 520 -1/+2 is the biggest scam ever for wheelies, 525 is where its at!!
turn your idle up to about 3500
clutch up from a dead stop with your foot on the brake at all times!
NEVER CHASE THE WHEELIE!
you will know from a split second after you drop the clutch if you going to get it high enough to actually ride out.
You are going to get freaked out but just keep at it with baby steps!!! after doing it for awhile you will get used to that hard lerching from when you drop the clutch and it rocking back into balance point.
Just as a frame of reference, if you doing a sit down you will be at balance when your fork tubes are parallel with the ground.
Cover the rear brake. and DO NOT LOOK AT YOUR RPM's!!!!!!!! just listen and feel the bike!!!!!!!!!!! it's just like not looking at your speedo when your racing!!
I'm not trying to sound like I know it all just trying to help you guys out like I got help!
and here is a vid just for reference, NOT show boating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PvCr9XTaig
ScottIR6 07-15-2009, 08:47 PM Everyone starts somewhere! just keep practicing.
I've only been riding the lots for about 5 weeks now with some good riders that have given me some tips.
If you plan on doing wheelies the 520 -1/+2 is the biggest scam ever for wheelies, 525 is where its at!!
turn your idle up to about 3500
clutch up from a dead stop with your foot on the brake at all times!
NEVER CHASE THE WHEELIE!
you will know from a split second after you drop the clutch if you going to get it high enough to actually ride out.
You are going to get freaked out but just keep at it with baby steps!!! after doing it for awhile you will get used to that hard lerching from when you drop the clutch and it rocking back into balance point.
Just as a frame of reference, if you doing a sit down you will be at balance when your fork tubes are parallel with the ground.
Cover the rear brake. and DO NOT LOOK AT YOUR RPM's!!!!!!!! just listen and feel the bike!!!!!!!!!!! it's just like not looking at your speedo when your racing!!
I'm not trying to sound like I know it all just trying to help you guys out like I got help!
and here is a vid just for reference, NOT show boating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PvCr9XTaig
-1/+2 520 is not a scam, its a great set up intended for racing and the 520 chain has a very noticable reduction of unsprung wieght that is mostly noticed when you riding above 13k. And wheelies popped up alot easier in 2nd and 3rd after i put the kit on..
cashmoneyflo 07-15-2009, 08:53 PM u dont even need bigger sprockets to ride slow wheelies. ppl do it all the time on stock ones
KYLE22 07-16-2009, 04:00 PM -1/+2 520 is not a scam, its a great set up intended for racing and the 520 chain has a very noticable reduction of unsprung wieght that is mostly noticed when you riding above 13k. And wheelies popped up alot easier in 2nd and 3rd after i put the kit on..
Read my post! I said it's a scam for wheelies! unsprung weight doesn't mean anything for wheelies, 520's get eatin up for wheelie ridin! But i'm also talking about strictly wheelies, not one every once and awhile on the street when you get the itch. and you noticed the difference because you changed your gearing, not the pitch of the chain...
ScottIR6 07-16-2009, 06:25 PM Read my post! I said it's a scam for wheelies! unsprung weight doesn't mean anything for wheelies, 520's get eatin up for wheelie ridin! But i'm also talking about strictly wheelies, not one every once and awhile on the street when you get the itch. and you noticed the difference because you changed your gearing, not the pitch of the chain...
I have heard people say that the 520 chain gets eatin up, but mine still looking good, i wheelie every time a take the bike out pretty much.
Can you explain what you mean about changing the pitch of the chain? or you talkin size likes 525 vs 520
KYLE22 07-16-2009, 10:32 PM I have heard people say that the 520 chain gets eatin up, but mine still looking good, i wheelie every time a take the bike out pretty much.
Can you explain what you mean about changing the pitch of the chain? or you talkin size likes 525 vs 520
yeah 520/525/530 are the pitch of the chain links. so you are decreasing the pitch and decreasing the width and strength of the chain. Not saying that the 520 is just going to brake when you put it on, but it just doesn't have the size or strength of the 525 to be hammering on it all day clutchin up wheelies or rippin in for endos. My 520 is still holding up but it's what was on the bike when I bought it. 525 is getting ordered up this next month! but it's all about your riding style and what you want from your bike.
UnCiViLr6eR 07-17-2009, 11:07 AM Many shops I go to tell me not to go with the 520 conversion kit that they tear up easy even though they are cheap and show results. Personally I don’t know I keep stock gearing/sprockets on mine and I can ride slow wheelies , all about balance point but if your just starting out it will be a while. Bigger sprockets just gets you up there quicker with less effort.
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