So I did a little searching, and from what I can tell people don't seem to think there's too much of a break-in period for a pair of new Q2's. However, I just got mine on yesterday (first tire change since buying the bike used), and first ride out I'm taking a fairly easy corner, not leaning in too hard or accelerating out of it at all, and I just lowside (first time too). Nothing serious, but it's still concerning to me. Should I just try to thermal cycle the tires by freeway riding for a bit, and then not worry about it? How long would you say it takes to get them up to temp?
I checked pressures a few days ago, but they seemed fine to me. How long does it take them to get up to temp, in your opinion? My only other thought is that I messed up and just accelerated out of the corner too hard and lost traction on my back end, but I didn't feel like I was being all that aggressive. Still, it was within the first mile on these tires.
Reason for your low side.....cold tires. Any tire if cold is going to slide out. On street, it takes a while to warm up to good temp, I'd say ~5 miles or so with good stop'n go's. Hard braking and strong acceleration generated more heat. Also depends on road temps, if tis too cold, tires loose heat fast.
No real break-in time for any modern tires as stated before. Just wait for them to warm up good enough (upto you to know when they are good enough for your riding skills).
It's amazingly difficult to keep the proper operating temperature in tires during street riding.. Just about as soon as you manage to get them up to temp you've gotta slow down for whatever reason and they're cooled down again. Unless you're running through the canyons for 30 minute sessions at a time..
Reason for your low side.....cold tires. Any tire if cold is going to slide out. On street, it takes a while to warm up to good temp, I'd say ~5 miles or so with good stop'n go's. Hard braking and strong acceleration generated more heat. Also depends on road temps, if tis too cold, tires loose heat fast.
No real break-in time for any modern tires as stated before. Just wait for them to warm up good enough (upto you to know when they are good enough for your riding skills).
It would have to be Ice cold for a q2 to to just give out like that. Personal on the street with tires not so warm I know what I can get away with on a Q2. Shit I wouldn't have the balls to try on a Stock tire.:lmao
But seriously even when cold the Q2 shouldnt have dropped out on him. maybe it was a throttle hesitation? maybe something on the ground he did't notice.
I didn't see anything on the ground, and it was dry (rare here up in Seattle). Not too cold, I'd say upper 40's, low 50's. My best guess is that I blipped the throttle coming out of the turn too hard and don't remember it, but I definitely didn't crank it. Either that or there was some stuff on the ground/tires I didn't notice.
I didn't see anything on the ground, and it was dry (rare here up in Seattle). Not too cold, I'd say upper 40's, low 50's. My best guess is that I blipped the throttle coming out of the turn too hard and don't remember it, but I definitely didn't crank it. Either that or there was some stuff on the ground/tires I didn't notice.
That's pretty cold. In temps like that, I wouldn't try anything out of the normal unless YOU KNOW FOR SURE your tires are up to temp. Plus the pavement is cold as well.
Sorry to hear about the spill but I generally take it easy on the streets and have not had issues with the Q2's not holding heat or anything like that; they heat up fairly quickly to be honest with you.
The carcass is a bit harder with the Q2's so check your temps often.
I found I was riding with 42psi in the rear after a trip to dealer; shit was rock hard and very twitchy (for me) when leaning it over.
I guess that a potential point of interest is that I'm coming off of some fairly worn down Pilot Power 2ct's, so I don't know how different they would be.
Dunlop Sportmax Q2 Rear Tire
Paul
(Issaquah, WA)
Watch out when they're cold!!
Surprised there is no litigation against Dunlop when using this tire in cold temperatures. Riding a Hayabusa on a 45°F day, tires at 45°F, pavement dry, clear but in the shade. Just started to enter turn, no lean angle to speak of, and front end slipped out immediately. Afterwards checked tire durometer; like hard plastic. Would never use again in cold temps.
I was incorrect, I was running 32/32 before, not 36/36. And as for cooking the tires, I've heard that the Q2's have a fairly soft edge, so for street riding to keep them a tad harder in order not to damage them. But that's for longer street rides in warmer weather, I think.
You won't be wearing through any tire in 1k miles or whatever unless you're doing burnouts or power stands or you're a HELLA fast track rider, regardless of the pressure you run. :fact
Anyone telling you to run low PSI on the street is just setting you up for a quicker wear and possible tire cupping; take this into consideration when setting tires PSI...I'm talking regular commuting to work and what not, not canyon riding.
I disagree with some of the PSI levels being thrown around in here, just me though.
Everyone who's running above a 32/32, do you still think that's alright for cold weather street riding? I'm talking less than 45-50 degrees F or so, with nights getting down into the 30's (I do some riding early in the morning before it's warmed up at all).
Honestly, you have to feel what works for you in the conditions you ride in.
You could start at 32-33/32 and work your way from there...You have to allow the tire to heat up a bit as well, so don't go out and romp it out of the gate, even with lower PSI.
BTW, I'm rolling with supercorsa (semi-track) and they're also very slippery when they're cold. Took my bike for a ride last month before storage (temp was around 50F-60F) and almost lowsided in a curve (too much acceleration, I know.)
Just warm then enough before twisting the throttle. Even if they're new, I don't think there's any major ''break-in'' to do. You can still do a burnout but I don't think the neighbors are gonna like it lol
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