Sorry for posting one of these threads...but I am having the hardest time deciding. Is there really even a difference between them? I am just talking about the slip on. Right now I just have my header midpipe and stock slipon with PC3. I have been searching youtube all day haha. So sorry again for making this thead...I am just very in decisive!
Not much difference in performance-wise since you're running just a slip-on. The Leo Vince seems to have a lower growl than the Graves, which has a slightly higher pitch, iirc. I love my Graves.
they will all sound the same really....gytr will be the loudest and have a high pitch to it...leo and graves will be the same loud wise except the leo will have a bit deeper sound to it..neither the leo or graves will be that loud
But honestly, any mid pipe and slip on setup is ridiculously loud and overly high flowing. slip ons are TINY. Full system silencers aren't tiny for a reason... With the leo, at least you get the insert to quiet it down or make some respectable back pressure.
I have ridden and setup bikes with mid pipes and slip ons that FLY, and some run better than others, but it's all hit or miss. No one y pipe and slip on is the answer to a perfect tune and amount of back pressure. :fact
I run a m4 mid with the stock can. Found that i gained a lot of low end i lost with the slip on and its still somewhat respectful as far as sound goes. I actually like it more now than when i had my slip on
I originally installed my midpipe with a competition werkes slip on. It has no baffles. I left the honeycomb in. It was retard loud.
Not even 12 hours later i put the stock can back on. I think with the stock can with honeycomb in headers the exhaust is just right. Not too loud and not too quiet. U don't have to piss off people and. Still get a nice sound down low. And still retaining decent back pressure.
I gave the werkes slip on to my buddy that still has his muffler box on. With it installed its pretty much as loud as my setup.
I am running the same thing in regards to the OEM slip on and the y pipe. I may just leave it as that and call it good. Got smog block offs on the way so I'm anxious to see what I notice differently with that.
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Does anyone have sound clips of oem slip on with aftermarket headers/no muffler? Personally, this type of setup seems the most logical sense from a performance and financial standpoint.
I don't like the look of a Leo slip-on! Sticks out too far. Now the full system is SEXY! I'm getting ready to do a mid pipe on mine and will be in the same boat, but I plan on running my shortened stock can until I can find something that really looks and sounds good. Been checking out Termi and RaceFit.
The GYTR's quality is fine. It's a good slip and a rather low price. There is a stainless leo out there right now for around the same price ($200ish) so it's a matter of preference.
I've only owned Yosh and GYTR stuff on any of my bikes, so that's all I really have to compare though. I came VERY close to trying the leo but I wanted cf since I have a raven.
One question I have is what does the leo sound like as compared to a yosh or gytr? It seems like they all sound pretty similar overall, but there certainly is a large difference in tone and volume between a shorty and a full sized slip.
I agree the gytr is ok, but its not even close to the akra graves or Leo. Depending on the budget you can a lot nicer of slip on for that of the gytr. I owned one so I'm not being biased. Just my personal opinion
i was in a dilemma myself. but what won me over to Graves was the look, sound and supporting a Yamaha team. Though Leo Vince was very close though... :fact
how would one of these GYTR's sound with a race header? was thinking of getting a used one for the track so i dont scratch up my pretty AKRA in an unlikly crash event.
I went M4 middy and GYTR because it was cheap(er) and I won't kick myself if I go down on the track with it.
A buddy of mine (member here) got a titanium Graves and it's tits all the way, but I'd personally cry (ok not really) if I'd rash a $1100+ exhaust. Hell, I paid less for the Full Borla system on my car...:laugh. To each....I'd go Akra next time around.
Hit me up for ridiculous deal on Leo slip on new. Old style, re-released with price reduction. Like R6Rammy's and Shad0ws slip on. The price you cannot refuse.
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