so..just how good are the Michelin PowerCUP race tires?

[tfs32]

Originally Posted by mmmfishrighton

Does CCS offer Michelin contingency? or is there no Michelin contingency?

There are big things coming next year that all I can say for now

[mmmfishrighton]

Looks like I will stick with the Power Cups then. This better not be a big ruse.

[ChiefSmokeDawg]

Originally Posted by MELK-MAN

and for those wondering what a chunked tire from the brutal high banks of Daytona LOOKS like.. here ya go. Makes ya get a bit "creative" about doing fast laps.






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Greg, I have a set of take offs and the littlest sipe on the edge is about all gone. Worth running to try out or not? V front and B rear i believe. Will upload pic later when I get to the shop.

[MELK-MAN]

Originally Posted by ChiefSmokeDawg

Greg, I have a set of take offs and the littlest sipe on the edge is about all gone. Worth running to try out or not? V front and B rear i believe. Will upload pic later when I get to the shop.

problem isn't the fact the sipes are partially gone to mostly gone on the max lean angle area.. it's the fact it's a "V" front, not a "VB" or "VA". That leads me to believe these are powerONE tires, NOT powerCUP. Cup is SUPERIOR big time to the Power1, especially the front tire. The power1 rear is pretty darn good, the V front isn't that bad, but the power cup fronts are just stupid good in comparison.

[MELK-MAN]

Originally Posted by mmmfishrighton

Looks like I will stick with the Power Cups then. This better not be a big ruse.

seriously Bro, no ruse. Truth. ya wanna talk about them some more or have specific questions let me know.

[MELK-MAN]

Originally Posted by tfs32

There are big things coming next year that all I can say for now

this is what David G. was eluding to at Daytona, but no specifics, and I won't hold my breath. (in regard to a contingency program). I hope they come up with something vs. nothing though.

keep in mind guys, ya really have to be pretty dang fast and finishing on the box consistently to earn any worthwhile contingency. This what what was funny about some of the guys running Dunlops that don't finish in the top 3 on a consistent basis. They were paying $150 MORE for a set of tires that are in my opinion, no better.. and our front may actually be BETTER. So they were already OUT $150 and would have to WIN to get that amount back. Pirelli offers no contingency either, so if ya ran the PowerCUp tires, you were ASSURED to be $150 ahead of the game with a set of tires that is capable of winning races.

[mmmfishrighton]

I ran Power Cups last year and they are in fact great tires. I was referring to contingency. Top 3 as a novice is not to difficult. Expert top 3 is a whole nother story. My goal is to have white plates after next year, then I won't have to worry about contingency at all.

[MELK-MAN]

Originally Posted by mmmfishrighton

I ran Power Cups last year and they are in fact great tires. I was referring to contingency. Top 3 as a novice is not to difficult. Expert top 3 is a whole nother story. My goal is to have white plates after next year, then I won't have to worry about contingency at all.

can't blame ya. stay tuned as there may be a program with Michelin, but that is just a rumor at this point. They had the absolute best program i ever saw in 10 years. $400 for an expert win in many classes, CASH, not a certificate toward tires that often never came .. to no program at all. weird.

[Shawn3210]

Looks like I'll be trying these in january....I love my bridgestones tho, so predictable when it's about to go or when it sliders...

[MELK-MAN]

Originally Posted by tfs32

Dont think of the Cups in the Aspect of Compound, They are a temp range. A is for cooler temps, B is the middle ground, and C is the hotter. I have seen guys TEAR the SHIT out of a C rear when they should have ran a B for the day due to the track temp. I taylor my tire to the temp for the day, and the track surface.

for sure. if all else fails, use this chart to pick a tire. As you said, it can depend on the track surface. Some tracks are more abrasive than others. It also will depend on the track configuration.. At JenningsGP for example, the corners are fast and sweeping. With a few 3rd gear and higher corners. Even the "back straight" is really a bit of a long curve. The rear tire gets hot. We use a B compound there all the time if running faster times. track day and AM riders or less than "fast" may go with the chart recommendation of an A for cooler temps. THen Palm Beach International, has slow 2nd gear corners.. even the faster riders like Stefano Mesa, and will include myself there, use the A rears as even in the 90F temps, the slower corners don't generate excess heat in the tire.

Use the chart as a guide, but as tfs32 pointed out, it's just a guide.. not a concrete rule with tires..