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Old 11-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #11
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Re: Realized its necessary to use the rear brake from time to time....

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I dont think he's using the rear brake lol. Its more of a combination of really hard braking and multiple gear downshifts causing the rear to slide out
Yes rear brake and yes he's using the slipper clutch and clutch.

Go practice what Marquez does and see how far it gets you ... an ambulance ride

I use the rear a lot for street, scooters, and dirt bikes, but very sparingly on the track. Wish I did more but I'm not up to the skill level to use it to settle the chassis or transition from side to side like the quick guys

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Old 11-04-2012, 09:19 AM   #12
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Re: Realized its necessary to use the rear brake from time to time....

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Yes rear brake and yes he's using the slipper clutch and clutch.

Go practice what Marquez does and see how far it gets you ... an ambulance ride

I use the rear a lot for street, scooters, and dirt bikes, but very sparingly on the track. Wish I did more but I'm not up to the skill level to use it to settle the chassis or transition from side to side like the quick guys

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I dont know man, i still think theres no rear brake involved in that.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:26 AM   #13
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I dont know man, i still think theres no rear brake involved in that.
Clearly you've never backed a bike into a corner..
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:34 AM   #14
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Clearly you've never backed a bike into a corner..
I've never tried using the rear brake, i know when i brake late and hard while downshifting the bike's rear slide out..
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:45 AM   #15
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I've never tried using the rear brake, i know when i brake late and hard while downshifting the bike's rear slide out..
Right. I don't recommend that you tap the rear brake at that time until you are fully aware of what will happen when you do it... And you've got lots of sick time saved up at your work.
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Right. I don't recommend that you tap the rear brake at that time until you are fully aware of what will happen when you do it... And you've got lots of sick time saved up at your work.


I'll take your word on it .
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:43 AM   #17
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Re: Realized its necessary to use the rear brake from time to time....

i use it all the time on the streets habit i guess? lol
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:12 PM   #18
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I dont know man, i still think theres no rear brake involved in that.
It's a super moto technique that made it's way into race, its really only useful in tight corners like a slow hair pin.

I was watching a world super sport race round 9 brno. The 3rd place guy could not catch the 1st & 2nd place racers because he kept using the rear brake in almost every turn.

Getting the rear wheel to go slower than the front cause the back of the bike to step out on the approach to the corner. This allows you set the bike up earlier for the exit to the corner by having it pointed to the exit sooner.

Using the rear brake for this technique is a tool to keep the rear wheel turning slower then the front. Most of this slowing down is done with engine breaking and the rear brake is just used to stop the rear wheel speed from matching the engine speed. You obviously don't want to lock the rear wheel as it will send the bike out of control as it stops the gyro effect from keeping the bike stable. Jumping to hard on the rear break would only lock the wheel and cause an uncontrollable skid.

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Old 11-05-2012, 05:45 AM   #19
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Re: Realized its necessary to use the rear brake from time to time....

Pay attention knuckleheads. Sport Riding Techniques By Nick Ienatsch.Chapter 6. Brakes: pages 65 thru 67. youll thank me later.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:46 AM   #20
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Re: Realized its necessary to use the rear brake from time to time....

i think dude is a lil more versed on the subjet. there nuff said.
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