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Old 11-07-2012, 03:34 PM   #21
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Re: Moving Forward. The time truly is now

well said Steph, i wasnt born in this country, but my family came here seeking freedom from persecution, we sought this country because the people WERE united, people cared more, it was less me me me, and more can i help you? America is all of us, its true, regardless how different you are from your neighbor, because in the end, an American is a melting pot of cultures, so lets take advantage of all the different cultures and make this nation better.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:53 PM   #22
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The downward spiral will continue, a generation can only hope to be as good as the one that proceeded it. The current generation will only distil their behavior to their children and so on. Liberal ideology and a gross exaggeration of self worth is what we have now. Everyone wants something for nothing, and with the government handing out free shit like its a fcuking monster truck rally, it's no wonder. Success and hard work is punished in this country, while failure and idiocy is rewarded. Some will strive to be better people, but majority rules, and I don't think America will ever recover.


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Old 11-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #23
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The question is ... how in the hell do we get it done?

The action item that I keep finding myself embracing more and more is to vote for 3rd party candidates.

What I really want is to get the ridiculous amount of influence a small amount of people have on our political system (ie, campaign financing via Koch bros, and whoever is giving Obama his mega-bucks), so that politicians are more interested in serving their constituents instead of a hand full of mega-rich campaign contributors who are looking to get mega-mega-rich. I am honestly not sure how we're ever going to do that with the current system.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:56 PM   #24
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The downward spiral will continue, a generation can only hope to be as good as the one that proceeded it. The current generation will only distil their behavior to their children and so on. Liberal ideology and a gross exaggeration of self worth is what we have now. Everyone wants something for nothing, and with the government handing out free shit like its a fcuking monster truck rally, it's no wonder. Success and hard work is punished in this country, while failure and idiocy is rewarded. Some will strive to be better people, but majority rules, and I don't think America will ever recover.


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Old 11-07-2012, 05:14 PM   #25
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" A generation can only hope too be as good as the one that proceeded it." Really. 1. Founding fathers, better than thier fathers. 2. anti slavery abolishion generation, 3. ww2 vets, 4. freedom riders of all colors and any body that said ***c the police in Montogermy Alabama. and even the wall street kids and the occupy movement. im 52 years young and i belive your wrong.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:16 PM   #26
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Good read and watch. I would love to post this on fb to see the reactions of people, but I'm a pussy.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:29 PM   #27
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Ben Franklin's son was a staunch loyalist. after the war atarted the two never talked again. Franklin the junior was totally shunned by the ole man and left the hell out of the will. which beceause of savvy bizz skills and long life ole Ben was like the Donald of his day. politics are a hard subject. but each generation calls its own shots.
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Good read and watch. I would love to post this on fb to see the reactions of people, but I'm a pussy.
I did post it on FB and the reaction was overly positive, well, other than some douchebag.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:15 PM   #29
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I did post it on FB and the reaction was overly positive, well, other than some douchebag.
I posted it on fb a few months ago and everyone who commented was in agreement.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:29 PM   #30
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..... but I'm a pussy.

Why? That's part of the issue at hand, because its easier to supress your true feelings about how things are going, than stand up and say LOOK THIS SITUATION IS TOTALLY FCUKED UP AND NEEDS TO CHANGE.

Giving up and going along with the rest of the sheep is easy, change is hard, it involves hard work, dedication, failing, getting back up dusting yourself off

The minute letting fear of other peoples reactions cause you to change what you say or do, they win.

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