Flash Tune Interface - Review - FAQ

[Tropicoz]

Well, I've tried the copy and paste method and it works 99% correctly. All the map values paste except for the last column. They remain unchanged . Not a huge issue...it's a lot easier to change a few values in a single column as opposed to rewriting the values for each gear!
I tried to start from the beginning and link the gears before making any changes and a box pops up with this message:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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I have no idea what it's trying to tell me. I'm guessing it's instructions to change some file and it might solve the problem?? Greek to me.

Anyway, I did notice a wierd thing happen with the values when I saved the files. After I opened them again, the values had changed slightly. For instance the 32's may have changed to 31.9's and some of the 100 values changed to 101 or 102. For the most part, the values were changed by only tenths so it isn't a big deal, but the high 102 values has me scratching my head. Should this be a concern?

[OhioYJ]

Look at those maps carefully, usually when it copies everything except the last column one of two things has happened, either that table has am extra column for some reason, or it pasted everything over to the left one space.

Sometimes selecting the whole map before pasting will make it paste correctly, but a lot of the time I have to restart the software to make it work after it starts acting up.

I've always found the link all changes between gears is also very buggy and only works once in some instances, meaning I don't use it until I'm completely done with the map.

[OhioYJ]

Also you aren't mixing maps between versions of software are you?

You may want to start a map from scratch as it sounds like something in your current map is corrupt.

[Tropicoz]

I'll look into it further. I do notice some CRAZY values when I switch views from percentage to values. When I get home I'll post up a picture to get a consensus. Is 103% throttle opening a bad thing? LOL, that makes me 3% faster than the next guy!!!!

[Tropicoz]

OK, so repetition was the key to get all the percentage values identical across all gear maps, as well as keeping "100" as the max value (none of this 101, 102, or 103 garbage). All gear maps are playing well together, but I still get some whacky values when I switch from the "percent" map to the "values" map.
Below is the Gear 1 map. FWIW, I'm adjusting everything in the Percentage map. Don't know if that makes a difference?

[toysareforboys]

Originally Posted by Tropicoz

Below is the Gear 1 map.

Ycct/throttle maps are value maps, not percentage maps!



In the flash tune software, "percentage" means "percent difference from stock", NOT things like "percent of throttle", etc.

-Jamie M.

[Tropicoz]

Originally Posted by toysareforboys

Ycct/throttle maps are value maps, not percentage maps!

Ah, OK.

Originally Posted by toysareforboys

In the flash tune software, "percentage" means "percent difference from stock", NOT things like "percent of throttle", etc.

-Jamie M.

Makes sense. But what doesn't make sense, is the math when comparing values between maps. For instance, in a "stock" map column 4 @2000PRM we have "3.6" when viewed as a "value", and "0" when viewed as "percent". Makes sense, stock map = no percentage change. However when we compare the same cell in a 91Pumpgas map, we have "3.7" when viewed as a "value", and "550" when viewed as "percent". To me, that means there's a 550% change..... Makes no sense at all.
Am I overcomplicating this? I hate doing things when I don't fully understand the whole process or see the relation between components. Am I to just modify the maps by the way they look, and accept that everything is going to work properly?

[toysareforboys]

Originally Posted by Tropicoz

Ah, OK.

Some maps are not meant to be viewed in percent mode (the throttle map being one), where some maps can be viewed and edited both in percent mode AND value mode (the ignition timing maps for instance).

-Jamie M.

[Tropicoz]

You sir, are a messiah of sorts!!!!!

[cbrkp]

hey guys. so I'm going to grab a quick shift setup either from annitori or just a sensor and run if off pin #21 (where is pin 21 btw and what color is it on the ecu plugs)?

was wondering if I enable quickshift sensor on flash tune how does it cut the bike off, ignition or fuel?

to recap once i flash the ecu engine brakig is automatically reduced by 20%?

anybody have a throttle map for me to only release openings dont need quick turn throttle? just flashed my ecu and the bike finally runs, stupid effed up immobilizer

what is: AIS , TOS and ETV?

when im changing values in ycct how come colors dont change only values? i figured a value at 100 would be red but it is not

cheers!