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Old 12-06-2012, 10:10 AM   #11
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Go to the track and get instruction from the control riders as mentioned above. U will hurt yourself or kill yourself trying otherwise
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:11 AM   #12
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Re: leaning leaning leaning

It all comes down to two things: body positioning and throttle control.

As some posters have already said, your aim is to LESSEN the lean angle of the bike at any given speed. How do you do this? With body positioning. By bringing your center of gravity over and down into the turn, you can corner just as fast as a neutrally-positioned rider who is leaning his machine over significantly more than you are. Guess who runs out of tire first?

But before you can do things like that, you need to master the basics. Are you sure you are even positioned properly when upright and centered? Many riders put too much weight on the front or rear end or grip the bars too tightly. You need to develop a fluid, relaxed, centered body position before you are ready to do any sort of proper cornering.

The next step is throttle control. The throttle is your best friend. Until you can get along with the throttle, you're a sitting duck as far as mid-corner crashes go. Riding a sportbike is all about fluidity, finesse, and control, not balls-to-the-wall lean angles and wide-open throttle.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:20 AM   #13
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When is it gonna be warm enough to take a ride? Let me know and I'll take you out up by me and we can work on your riding. I ain't gonna take you anywhere to get your knee down or anything in this weather and shitty conditions, but I'll get you on some sweepers so you can settle into a turn for a change and work on correct body position, etc.

I need a ride BADLY and I've got at least 6 gallons of race gas to burn. Lemme know.

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Old 12-06-2012, 10:28 AM   #14
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Re: leaning leaning leaning

OP - what is your goal? If you just want to get the bike leaned over a lot and look cool, just go through the same turn at a higher speed.

Lean angle is just a function of the radius of the turn, and the speed your going through it (center of gravity changes it a bit, but you don't have a huge amount of control over that).

Be warned, if that's your goal, you're probably going to crash sooner than later, and it's going to suck.

A better goal is to learn how to be a better rider and focus on throttle control, smooth braking, turn-in points, counter steering and body position. Gain confidence, be smooth, and your speed will pick-up, and then you'll be leaning the bike over more, comfortably, without giving it much thought.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:42 AM   #15
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:18 PM   #16
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Lean angle is not the goal, lack of lean angle at a given speed IS the goal.
The difference between "trying" to look cool and actually knowing what your doing!
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