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Old 12-07-2012, 01:37 PM   #141
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im up in the air about how the akra pipe flows with that bike. the bike is stunning dont get me wrong, and it doesnt look horrid by any means but i think something less bulky would flow smoother. that said id love to have either of those works of art.

thanks again Max for posting up all these pics
Kimi's first bike is called the Iceman... something to do with his nickname... he looks kind of familiar... I think he used to race Ferrari's or something...



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Old 12-07-2012, 01:53 PM   #142
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Oh well right, but it's kinda the same concept as radio ads-- You have less ads, people tend to take greater notice of the ones you DO have (since they can be bigger). Less sponsors paying a bit more = greater overall exposure for them, and a better looking bike, which furthers the point.


*shrugs* I just mean that at some point the huge mass of stickers on that thing tends to be so eclectic that I don't notice what ANY of them say.
For an engineer (who follows MotoGP no less), you sure are dense sometimes...

MotoGP is having a hard enough time filling the grid due to lack of teams having enough money. Sponsors have pulled back, and money is getting difficult to find. So the fewer sponsors should be willing to pay more for greater overall exposure how? You do realize they don't get to design the bike graphics other than the real estate they paid for, right? And Cecchinello has a different business model when it comes to soliciting sponsors...
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:59 PM   #143
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For an engineer (who follows MotoGP no less), you sure are dense sometimes...

MotoGP is having a hard enough time filling the grid due to lack of teams having enough money. Sponsors have pulled back, and money is getting difficult to find. So the fewer sponsors should be willing to pay more for greater overall exposure how? You do realize they don't get to design the bike graphics other than the real estate they paid for, right? And Cecchinello has a different business model when it comes to soliciting sponsors...
I mean that's true too, on the other end of the continuum-- Get a shitload of sponsors each paying a little bit and you [probably] end up with the same money... I just saying that it doesn't look as aesthetically pleasing to have a sticker-bombed bike on the grid.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:06 PM   #144
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Oh well right, but it's kinda the same concept as radio ads-- You have less ads, people tend to take greater notice of the ones you DO have (since they can be bigger). Less sponsors paying a bit more = greater overall exposure for them, and a better looking bike, which furthers the point.


*shrugs* I just mean that at some point the huge mass of stickers on that thing tends to be so eclectic that I don't notice what ANY of them say.
From my experience (and that of the dick head sales people that I come across), it's the exact opposite. It could be true that the, ''hey, never seen this before, what's this all about'' approach does somewhat work, but the trick is consistency. As in, ''in your face at all times''.

That's what makes advertising actually WORK in the grand scheme of things. Not just something to be interested in, and then forget the name a few hours later.

Trying to create a recognizable brand, and not just an ill placed logo here or there.

Did I just go on a rant and completely forget the actual point of something, here?
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I mean that's true too, on the other end of the continuum-- Get a shitload of sponsors each paying a little bit and you [probably] end up with the same money... I just saying that it doesn't look as aesthetically pleasing to have a sticker-bombed bike on the grid.
For a guy that runs probably the least-funded satellite team in MotoGP, I'm gonna guess that Cecchinello knows what he is doing...

Keep in mind that LCR's main sponsor can change from race to race, unlike other teams... Playboy Italia, Elf, Linear, Givi, Rizoma, and Doctor Glass bikes all look different depending on who is the main sponsor for that particular round...
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:29 PM   #147
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Doesn't get much more Hardcore than this... BST carbon wheels, Íhlins Superbike Forks, top shelf Walz-branded Brembo calipers, carbon rotors... these items alone would buy you a few R6's... excuse me while I go in a cold shower right now...

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yup i see that bike, i think of my bike, and i just think...im doing it wrong
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:47 PM   #149
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this^^ someone pays me enough im rolling around the track with a bright pink bike with big black dildos painted on
Hmm, that might be even better than the Hello Kitty paint scheme...
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