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Old 01-16-2013, 08:07 AM   #11
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Re: New shock help

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Some people won't charge anything, if much at all....... and unless you have a Ktech guy standing there looking at the tire, temperature, track conditions and riding style, their on-phone advice won't be as accurate as someone standing over the bike.

If someone can afford to pay for a shock like that, a few $20 bills shouldn't be out of the question for a proper analysis and set up.

Maybe their base "here's what we have on file" on the phone set up will work, but not on the first ride.
are we seriously having a debate on why or why not the guy shouldn't call Ktech?? Good GOD man. LOL
no offense but you haven't been racing long enough to to understand that much of what you just said is SOMETIMES not true. You think that a suspension tuner just waives his magic wand over a bike and instantly knows what the issue is?? HA ! We WISH it was that easy. If every time a tire tore like that, there could be multiple variables at play. One variable is a NEW SHOCK. Hmmm.. could be something with the shock but what do i know!

the guys at Ktech have been racing in England for YEARS, they have lots of racers on their stuff here in the states too.. THEY engineer the shock, and COULD be able to direct the riders to proper setup for the shock. I have been there-done that my friend. I am not saying DON'T talk to a suspension guy and develop a relationship with them for future help, but talking with the shock builder is the place to START ! He may simply have had it sent with the wrong setting of some sort, they will tell him "hey, here is the standard setting, put the eye to eye length here, comp/reb here, sag=this"..

Some suspension guys will GLADLY take your $20 bills you waive about.. then twist some stuff and send you on your way. It feels different, so you think "WOW, THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER" when in fact there was little change at all, or a dramatic change that doesn't help but you think it did because you spent money. You can QUICKLY begin chasing your tail with suspension, spend hundreds of dollars, and be no better off. Start with the simple stuff, like a call to the guys that built the shock to ensure you got what you paid for, and any setup tips they have..
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:40 AM   #12
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Re: New shock help

I just said that he would achieve better results from someone on-hand...... and I never said he would get it all the way he wanted after a single session/tune. You're lucky if you can ever find a working set up that quick.

Will K-Tech be able to take his call after every session until he gets the right suspension set up? Will he even get through the line? And will he speak to the right person? Sure "here's our base line" is a place to start, not to finish.

One variable is a new shock, but there are so many other variables.... You can't just blame the shock like it appears you are.

10% of the time it's the part's fault, the other 90% is down to the rider, maintenance of that part and how it's set up.

But what can K-tech do over the phone that an on-track suspension expert can't? The last time I saw; compression, rebound, sag, etc... adjustments were on most aftermarket shocks. The physics doesn't change in between shocks.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:43 PM   #13
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Re: New shock help

geezus bro, you are totally misreading what i am trying to tell you.. Nowhere did i say Ktech would have the perfect setup for the bike, i said they may have a suggestion for the shock itself based on the fact THEY DESIGNED IT/SOLD IT. A trackside clicker-twister may have zero experience with that shock, or they may not, but what the heck is the problem with calling the shock mfgr.
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