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First 600mi service. Too early?

Im currently at 400mi and want to do an oil and filter change. Is it too early? Im going to a 250mi roundtrip this weekend. So that would leave me to change it at 400 or 650. I am also doing a "hard break in" AKA redlining and running 100mph++. Thoughts?
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Re: First 600mi service. Too early?

I would base it on your riding habit during those 400 miles. If you rode it hard or aggressive, I'd say you're fine to do the oil change now. If you babied the s**t out of it or just cruised, I say wait until after your trip after opening it up some - essentially follow the manual.

You'll notice upon doing the first service, which includes checking a lot of things to be in spec at ~600 miles, your oil will contain a lot of fine metal in it. I know mine did. The very thin oil they use from the factory will have a mirror like metallic look to it from all of the metal floating in the oil. Either way you should be fine. I've witnessed people do the service both early and kinda late. It was the ones who waited later to do it are those who ran into oil problems down the line. I know people who purchased a bike brand new, ripped on it at the track for a track day as their break-in, and then changed the oil right after. On a track day, typically the full day will rack up somewhere around 100 - 150 miles.

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I would base it on your riding habit during those 400 miles. It you rode it hard or aggressive, I'd say you're fine to do the oil change now. If you babied the s**t out of it or just cruised, I say wait until after your trip after opening it up some - essentially follow the manual.

You'll notice upon doing the first service, which includes checking a lot of things to be in spec at ~600 miles, your oil will contain a lot of fine metal in it. I know mine did. The very thin oil they use from the factory will have a mirror like metallic look to it from all of the metal floating in the oil. Either way you should be fine. I've witnessed people do the service both early and kinda late. It was the ones who waited later to do it are those who ran into oil problems down the line. I know people who purchased a bike brand new, ripped on it at the track for a track day as their break-in, and then changed the oil right after. On a track day, typically the full day will rack up somewhere around 100 - 150 miles.

Just my thoughts and opinion.
Good to know!! Yeah I've been riding aggressive after 100miles. From 200-400 I've treating it as if it wasn't brand new (red lined and reached 130 mph). Well looks like I'll be doing an oil change before the trip.

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Re: First 600mi service. Too early?

I did my first oilchange at about 650-700 for some nice motul oil. its all preference!
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Re: First 600mi service. Too early?

i'm more of a do it by the manual guy. having said that, I did a track day on my bike with 500 miles on it lol
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Re: First 600mi service. Too early?

Personal opinion, you can never change it too early. (no harm) You can however waste oil, waste money. I've read somewhere that it's it's illegal to "short change" in the EU, for environmental reasons. Only once have I ever changed oil without changing the filter. (because the filter had only a handful of miles on it and needed to drain the oil for engine service)
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Re: First 600mi service. Too early?

I changed mine at 350ish for rotella 15w40 then at 1100 put rotella 5w40 t6 full synthetic and a k&n in due to not finding the 63.8mm cup socket. No issues with particles or ring blow by.. sitting at 4700+ in under 7 weeks and due again.

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