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In what aspect? Cause when I measured the tread are on a 180 pirelli vs the 190 dunlop 211, the 211 had .5 inch of additional tread area than the 180.
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Circumference was about the same on the two tires.
The 180 Pirelli is made for a 5.5" rim and so is the 190 Dunlop. This can turn into a pissing match but in the CMRA, Pirelli takes the most wins and total podiums.


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The 180 Pirelli is made for a 5.5" rim and so is the 190 Dunlop. This can turn into a pissing match but in the CMRA, Pirelli takes the most wins and total podiums.


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I don't see how it could. We aren't debating anything at all, and nobody is asking which one is better. I'm just tryin to get some more info since u race and I'm just starting too!

I was wondering what aspects of the 180 & 190 are the same! Tire height is the same about. But the tread is a lot wider. The weight difference is something I'm not sure of.

I'm curious like a cat!


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Well if the 180 Pirelli is made for a 5.5" rim and so is the 190, i assume that the bead is made a certain way for each tire and make a certain profile. Maybe the Dunlop is technically wider but if it's taller it will still fit on the same rim. Does that make sense?

Pirelli - 180/60 (tall because of higher sidewall)
Dunlop - 190/55 (tall because of profile)

I'm just assuming what's above. I am making a well educated guess

The Pirelli also has a more flexible carcass. The carcass will flatten out the side when leaned over. The Dunlop has a rather hard carcass (especially the front) and a lot of people don't like it because it generally has no feel while the Pirelli actually flexes (commonly mistaken for slipping). So at full lean angle you actually have the same (if not more) contact patch than the Dunlop.

So all in all, idk why Dunlop doesn't make a 180... All I know is they compare the 190 to 180s of other brands


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Well if the 180 Pirelli is made for a 5.5" rim and so is the 190, i assume that the bead is made a certain way for each tire and make a certain profile. Maybe the Dunlop is technically wider but if it's taller it will still fit on the same rim. Does that make sense?

Pirelli - 180/60 (tall because of higher sidewall)
Dunlop - 190/55 (tall because of profile)

I'm just assuming what's above. I am making a well educated guess

The Pirelli also has a more flexible carcass. The carcass will flatten out the side when leaned over. The Dunlop has a rather hard carcass (especially the front) and a lot of people don't like it because it generally has no feel while the Pirelli actually flexes (commonly mistaken for slipping). So at full lean angle you actually have the same (if not more) contact patch than the Dunlop.

So all in all, idk why Dunlop doesn't make a 180... All I know is they compare the 190 to 180s of other brands


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Thanks for the info bro. The 190 dunlop is actually about the same height as the 180/55 pirelli. It's a negligable difference. I measure the circumference on them.

The carcass difference is the MAIN reason I stuck with Pirelli.
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coming off track day slicks to a D211 woulda been too much a change for me, so I opted for the softer carcass cause it's almost an in between tire in regards to carcass softness. U can sit on a D211 and not crush it!
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Thanks so much for the info and feedback! I am that much happier I stuck with Pirelli! DSC's FTW!!!!!
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Okay, well from what I've gathered thus far, I'll definitely be going with Pirelli. I think I'll be good with the 190 width, especially if that particular tire squats well in corners [I'm assuming it's a good thing to have more contact surface when turning? Please correct me if I'm wrong] so that sounds like the way to go for my particular application. Lots of useful info in this thread though, thanks fellas
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Thanks for the info bro. The 190 dunlop is actually about the same height as the 180/55 pirelli. It's a negligable difference. I measure the circumference on them.

The carcass difference is the MAIN reason I stuck with Pirelli.
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coming off track day slicks to a D211 woulda been too much a change for me, so I opted for the softer carcass cause it's almost an in between tire in regards to carcass softness. U can sit on a D211 and not crush it!
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Thanks so much for the info and feedback! I am that much happier I stuck with Pirelli! DSC's FTW!!!!!
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Yep. I race on the sc1 (blue) and track days on the sc2 (medium)


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Okay, well from what I've gathered thus far, I'll definitely be going with Pirelli. I think I'll be good with the 190 width, especially if that particular tire squats well in corners [I'm assuming it's a good thing to have more contact surface when turning? Please correct me if I'm wrong] so that sounds like the way to go for my particular application. Lots of useful info in this thread though, thanks fellas
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These are race/track tires we are talking about. WAY different than street. If you get Dunlop race tires get 190. Pirelli get 180. If you are getting any street tires get a 180. No need in the 190


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Yep. I race on the sc1 (blue) and track days on the sc2 (medium)


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Perfect. Have u ever run blue front and green rear? I hear it's a sick setup. I've got sc2's front and rear for track days.

OP, the tires we are discussing are race DOT tires. They are Not great on the streets In wet conditions!


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These are race/track tires we are talking about. WAY different than street. If you get Dunlop race tires get 190. Pirelli get 180. If you are getting any street tires get a 180. No need in the 190


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Okay, thanks for the info. I was thinking I would do Pirelli 180's then. Looks like everyone I've talked to has been happy with those, although I don't think I could really go wrong either way. Sorry for the misconception that you were talking about street tires. I know that they're way different and wouldn't think running about them on the street.

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Okay, thanks for the info. I was thinking I would do Pirelli 180's then. Looks like everyone I've talked to has been happy with those, although I don't think I could really go wrong either way. Sorry for the misconception that you were talking about street tires. I know that they're way different and wouldn't think running about them on the street.
Pirelli makes a street compound version of the Supercorsas!
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But like I mentioned, the wet traction is an issue. And they probably won't reach 5000 miles like power pures or Q2's, etc.


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