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Longer lasting track tire

So for my first 6 or 7 track days, I had Michelin Pilot Power 2ct tires but they were failing me with grip. Then I bumped up to Michelin Pilot Cup take offs for a few td's, and didn't have any problems except waiting for them to heat up since I don't have warmers yet. Got pretty good wear out of them. Kept the Cup on the front and put a new Power One on the rear, and the power one only lasted one track day, and I was sliding all over the place. I know the faster you get, the more you spend, but I can't afford a new rear tire every track day. So, what tires have you guys had good success with that lasted a while? I think the Power Cup was just a fluke because they are a softer compound than the Power One.


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It all depends on pace. You could try trackday slicks but they won't have the traction of the Power Cups.

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The track i'll finish out the season on is pretty much brand new, and destroys tires because it has a ton of grip. I'm just not sure dropping back down to a 2ct would be able to handle it. Goal is to bump up to advanced group next trackday if I can get a coach to bump me before my tires crap out again, if that helps out with the pace question.


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You shouldn't be burning through a brand new Power Cup just looking to bump to advanced. Check your suspension and pressures, you might be getting cold tear from not running warmers too.

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I am upper level advanced and depending on the track can get a 2 sprint races, and a bunch of instructing on the cups. Like Merc has said, what pressure? and what is your suspension doing?

FWIW I ran a set of super bike pros in advanced with out issue. I also ran a guy on a set of cups down running at a very good pace and I was on a Pirelli Dragon SC2 (a street/tackday tire)


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I am upper level advanced and depending on the track can get a 2 sprint races, and a bunch of instructing on the cups. Like Merc has said, what pressure? and what is your suspension doing?

FWIW I ran a set of super bike pros in advanced with out issue. I also ran a guy on a set of cups down running at a very good pace and I was on a Pirelli Dragon SC2 (a street/tackday tire)
You also love to drift your bike through corners
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You shouldn't be burning through a brand new Power Cup just looking to bump to advanced. Check your suspension and pressures, you might be getting cold tear from not running warmers too.
The heat cycling from running a race tire without warmers is also going to kill it a lot faster too, isn't it?
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The heat cycling from running a race tire without warmers is also going to kill it a lot faster too, isn't it?
Heat cycling hardens the rubber making it less grippy, but I haven't seen anything about it wearing faster because of not running warmers.

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I just let the bike do work, I tend to take naps while racing...
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The heat cycling from running a race tire without warmers is also going to kill it a lot faster too, isn't it?
Yep! with most race tires after 8 heat cycles it is DONE!
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Heat cycling hardens the rubber making it less grippy, but I haven't seen anything about it wearing faster because of not running warmers.
Also true, the rubber will get harder, and it could wear faster since it is not getting as heak soaked as it should
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I just let the bike do work, I tend to take naps while racing...

Yep! with most race tires after 8 heat cycles it is DONE!


Also true, the rubber will get harder, and it could wear faster since it is not getting as heak soaked as it should
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And this is why you're the tire vendor and I just try to kill myself on every "Turn 1" we go into.

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