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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2014, 01:36 AM Thread Starter
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Trying to get my knee down

I've tried this weekend to get my kneedown at very low speed, but I just couldn't do it. The best times I've been about 1 inch from the ground with my slider. Mostly I think it's due bad body positioning. Should lean more over with my upper body I guess (kiss the mirrors)...Suggestions, tips? Let me know...

Next time I will try it with a cone to focus on....

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2014, 02:43 AM
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Knee down in car park is less cool than knee down at track...just sayin. Less time practicing knee down and more time getting smoother/faster on the controls IMO. It will come with more speed.
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Knee down in car park is less cool than knee down at track...just sayin.
Totally agree with you! But I just want to get used to the feeling on low speed instead of experiencing it the first time on high speed.

My buddy also tried it the first time there, and did it just out of the blue. Or is it because of the naked bike vs R6? That you need more speed on the R6 to knee down?


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Just lean more. I used to do this in a parking lot. I remember going about 25 and just going in a constant circle. Just keep leaning till it touches or you feel uncomfortable. It is easier to get it done at speed on a track

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The purpose of good body position is to make you use less lean angle for a given turn at a given speed. So if you're goal is to get your knee down the fastest, shitty body position is what you want.

Good body position is going to take away lean angle, so you're going to have to go even faster to require enough lean angle to get a knee on the deck.

Really though - you shouldn't be worried about touching a knee down. You should worry about riding your bike well. If you're doing things right, you'll eventually get a knee down, and it'll feel like a great accomplishment - but it feels even better to ride around the outside of guys who are dragging a knee, when you're not, because they're body position is awful and yours isn't.
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um why?
What makes me laugh is when I show someone this bike

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explaining its the easiest way to practice riding without having to go to the track they balk. Seriously...guys on liter bikes that could use a lesson in corner speed absolutely laugh at the prospect of learning something on "mini bike".

Heres how its done...

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The purpose of good body position is to make you use less lean angle for a given turn at a given speed. So if you're goal is to get your knee down the fastest, shitty body position is what you want.

Good body position is going to take away lean angle, so you're going to have to go even faster to require enough lean angle to get a knee on the deck.

Really though - you shouldn't be worried about touching a knee down. You should worry about riding your bike well. If you're doing things right, you'll eventually get a knee down, and it'll feel like a great accomplishment - but it feels even better to ride around the outside of guys who are dragging a knee, when you're not, because they're body position is awful and yours isn't.
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um why?
What makes me laugh is when I show someone this bike

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explaining its the easiest way to practice riding without having to go to the track they balk. Seriously...guys on liter bikes that could use a lesson in corner speed absolutely laugh at the prospect of learning something on "mini bike".

Heres how its done...

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That looks like an awesome kart track. I did a supermoto track day recently and it was a ton of fun. I'd WAY rather learn about the limits of traction on a little bike on a kart track than get introduced to sliding the rear at 100mph on a big bike at a big track. The mistakes are going to hurt a lot less.
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That looks like an awesome kart track. I did a supermoto track day recently and it was a ton of fun. I'd WAY rather learn about the limits of traction on a little bike on a kart track than get introduced to sliding the rear at 100mph on a big bike at a big track. The mistakes are going to hurt a lot less.
All told you are looking at about a grand or so to get the bike as you see it.
You can buy an xr or crf 100 for about $400-$700. Been basically the same bike since 1995.

Used xr80 16"front wheel is about $100 ($230 new from honda for a complete wheel)
Tires & tubes are less than $235 BT45s
Jetting = $15
Box of crash spares (levers, bars, pegs) $50
Catch can setup $20

Above prices assume a good mechanical condition bike. These models tend to get abused by paper boy aged kids so keep that in mind when shopping

Now you have a parking lot racer that you can show up just about anywhere to practice body position, trail braking and other advanced riding techniques. If you crash... 99.9% of the time you get right back up and try it again.
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