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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-23-2014, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
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A question about staying safe on a R6

Hello everybody, upon a lot of research I cannot find a definite answer to this question/problem. What is the real way to stop tank slapping? I have heard to roll off, roll on, rear brake, no brakes at all, squeeze tank, different riding styles all together, bad tires etc.

The list goes on and on. Doesn't mater whether you look for an answer on forums, youtube (why not), other sites. There is always a variety of cures but what is the right one??

I am even more confused because I have a friend who bought a 2012 R6 as a first bike at 21. I asked him about it and he said it had happened to him and all he did was push forward on the bars putting weight on them.

???????? Isn't that what your NOT supposed to do? It kept him alive though because he is a mad man and is real aggressive on the highway lane splitting at 120mph + (I've seen it, go pro verified)

I also hear the R6 is more prone to headshake as well.

then there's the whole steering stabilizer v.s. not needing one and how they are a "bandaid"

Please can someone shed some light on this? I want to be prepared for it if it happens one day.

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post #2 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-23-2014, 03:15 PM
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Re: A question about staying safe on a R6

First off trying to muscle it isn't going to help you, but make it worse. In theory keeping on the throttle or opening it up more will reduce weight on the front and help.
In reality pucker up your ass, relax your grip, don't chop the throttle or use brakes, and pray lol. It'll end quickly either way.
Also you're better off learning how to prevent a head shake and what causes it.

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Also you're better off learning how to prevent a head shake and what causes it.
this

not only is it difficult to correct once it happens, but you're likely to freeze-up anyway in that situation.

i had a massive head-shake moment on a race track and somehow i was able to keep calm, but nothing i tried worked. the bars were shaking so fast and violently i couldn't even let go. i guess you could say that nothing i wanted to try worked as i was pinned in 3rd gear and could do nothing to change it. somehow it eventually stopped, but not before sending me off the track at over 100mph.

in my case, a light front end (due to full throttle) over slightly bumpy track and too much weight on the clip-ons (due to fatigue and poor body positioning) was the recipe for disaster.

a damper will help, but it won't correct bad form. that's where the "band-aid" comments come in.

once head-shake happens, you become just a passenger until it decides to stop or spits you off...


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Thanks for all the advice so far. So let's say I were to make a list of all the things to do to prevent it and/or correct it, it would go like this:

Prevention:
1. Keep and eye out for crap roads/bad parts of the road

2. Try not to get the front end light

3. Do not put a lot of weight on the front bars with bad body positioning

4. Have a steering damper installed just in case ( good idea?)

Anything else?

When it happens:
1. Roll off easy/don't chop the throttle

2. Don't hit the brakes

3. No extra inputs to the bars

Anything else?

I know one day I will want to test the limits of the bike (say an open stretch of empty highway) and the last thing I want is something like this at 140, even geared up

Is there any worthwhile literature on the net about the subject that I should read? I'm trying to be the best rider I can be. Thanks again
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Re: A question about staying safe on a R6

Check out twist of the wrist 1 and 2. Book or dvd, sometimes it's on YouTube.

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Re: A question about staying safe on a R6

1. Body position

2. Body position

3. Body position.

Try some traction pads on the tank like Stomp Grip. They will aid your legs and midsection taking the weight off your hands. Squeeze that tank.


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Thanks for all the advice so far. So let's say I were to make a list of all the things to do to prevent it and/or correct it, it would go like this:

Prevention:
1. Keep and eye out for crap roads/bad parts of the road

2. Try not to get the front end light

3. Do not put a lot of weight on the front bars with bad body positioning

4. Have a steering damper installed just in case ( good idea?)

Anything else?

When it happens:
1. Roll off easy/don't chop the throttle

2. Don't hit the brakes

3. No extra inputs to the bars

Anything else?

I know one day I will want to test the limits of the bike (say an open stretch of empty highway) and the last thing I want is something like this at 140, even geared up

Is there any worthwhile literature on the net about the subject that I should read? I'm trying to be the best rider I can be. Thanks again
The list looks alright but understanding exactly what a tank slapper is and how they usually occur may help solidify the above points a little bit. I wrote an article on the subject and it can be found
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Take a read through and see if that helps. I'm a coach with the California Superbike School so please let me know if you have any more questions after reading.
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Don't ride with your idiot 21 year old friend.


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Thank you Misti, glad to take advice from someone with your experience level. I will read what you included thoroughly
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