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What stops you from going into turns quicker?

Approaching a turn, have you ever felt as though you were going too fast when you were CERTAIN you could turn the bike? Or, if you are confident you can turn the bike does your entry speed ever seem too high?
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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

The brakes! Duh.
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But yeah. My "oh shit" moment is usually while / or just after turning the bike, when I realize I'm not going to get anywhere near the apex, or that the outside edge of the track is approaching much faster than I expected, and I'm gonna have to wait longer than I'd like to get on the gas.
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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

Riding a smaller bike helps with putting corner speed especially entry speed into perspective.

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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

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Riding a smaller bike helps with putting corner speed especially entry speed into perspective.
Yep, this right here. On my 250 I quickly discovered that there were a lot of corners I could be taking faster on the bigger bike.

Pretty funny when you are taking the entire straight to get up to entry speed for a sweeper, then watching the big bikes that passed you all park it before tipping in. They're on the brakes trying to get setup and you're still WFO hoping that they don't do anything stupid.

But yes, to answer the OP: that's when you just push the inside bar and lean and believe. Don't try to hang off more or let off the gas, just lean it over, look where you should be and pray. The few times I've gone off track were from me ****ing up and looking where I didn't want to go.

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The brakes! Duh.
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But yeah. My "oh shit" moment is usually while / or just after turning the bike, when I realize I'm not going to get anywhere near the apex, or that the outside edge of the track is approaching much faster than I expected, and I'm gonna have to wait longer than I'd like to get on the gas.
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So if you were able to get the bike turned quicker and to know for certain that you could always turn the bike fast enough to make the corner (and always hit your apex), would you be more confident using a higher entry speed?

How do you turn the bike quickly?

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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

It's not just with you, but why does it seem like the Keith Code school always teaches in the form of questions?

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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

That's the beauty of the r6. It very forgiving in the corners. When u f up just point and shoot.
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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

A deer... seriously, it's no joke in the Mid West.

But honestly, I worked on braking all last season which was mainly a suspension gimmick for me. Only time I had an "issue" with it was over-shooting Turn 7 at Blackhawk Farms. It wasn't by much, but enough where I was braking so hard the rear was straight off the ground and I couldn't hit my turn-in, over shot my entry, went in to grass, grass said "NO": crash.

I found properly setting up my suspension and then over filling my forks 40-50 mL helped keep the front from excessively diving and led to much greater stability and higher entry speeds under braking. Last time I was out I was within 5 seconds of the record lap times; made a huge difference in my game. Contrary to popular opinion, I'm a believer that brakes are what make you fast.

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Re: What stops you from going into turns quicker?

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It's not just with you, but why does it seem like the Keith Code school always teaches in the form of questions?
Why do you think it is?

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It's not just with you, but why does it seem like the Keith Code school always teaches in the form of questions?
It's called the Socratic Method and I find it to be the most effective way to inspiring critical thinking in students.
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