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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-05-2015, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
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Possible 2nd Gen R6 Trackbike build

Newb here in need of some advice about the 2nd Gen or R6s. Several years ago I switched from a 2003 Honda 600RR to a 2000 F4 and was immediately more comfortable and faster. I'm not really sure why but I guess it is what it is. The 600RR felt like an instrument and the F4 felt like a toy. I was running intermediate club race times.

I'm trying to put together another track bike and the F4i is my first choice but they are hard to come by, parts are scarce and every dime I put into it will be lost..

So what about the 2nd Gen R6? I've noticed the ergos are closer to the F4i's than my 600RR, with the lower seat height and triples above the clamp. How easy is it to go fast on one? I've read the frame is super-stiff, like R7 stiff. Is that a good thing or bad for someone that's not a profesional?

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-05-2015, 07:11 PM
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Re: Possible 2nd Gen R6 Trackbike build

For the track, get a R6r, not the s. You wont regret


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Re: Possible 2nd Gen R6 Trackbike build

In the middle of building my 05 for the track. I don't think there is a gigantic disadvantage to the second generation. Obviously it isn't the newest and greatest. But on a budget I think it serves the purpose just great. Finding parts isn't terrible either.
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Re: Possible 2nd Gen R6 Trackbike build

I've had a couple of people say it takes a pretty damn good rider to go faster on the 3rd gen over a 2nd. I'm on a budget as well so the 2nd gen is what's I'm looking at. What are they like to ride though?
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I could believe that, I myself have only ridden a 3rd gen a number of times. As far as second gens go try your hardest to get an 05. If definitely is their best year, it has better forks and bigger throttle bodies.

As far as how they ride I think that's all up to setup. You can get the front resprung for your weight (or even revalved). And get a new rear shock, or just resprung. Some adjustable clip ons and adjustable rearsets and you're laughing. I'm 6'2" and the bike is totally fine for me as far as setup is concerned. The gearing also plays a difference, depending on your track and what gears you want to be in.

Keep in mind they are a race bike, they were competitive 10 years ago and they're still competitive now. They take a little more work to get them ready for the track, compared to a 3rd gen. But I don't think I'll be outriding my bike with my ability this upcoming season.
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Well I'd definitely have the forks re-valved and put a Penske or Ohlins rear shock all by someone that has lots of experience with the bike. When you say I'll be laughing, you mean because it will handle so well?
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Good call, and you can always find one used so just keep your eye out. And yes the handing difference from those main 4 (front forks, rear shock, rear sets and clip on). It's a significant improvement over stock.
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I've heard a lot of way-more-experience-than-me racers declare the 2nd gen R6 to be one of the best sportbike chassis ever, and is generally easier to ride than the 3rd gen, but the 3rd gen is all-out faster when ridden by someone who really knows what they're doing.

There's a dude on here, Melk-Man who's the #1 plate holder for WERA Southwest (or CCS?) and has ridden R6s his whole career, and his fastest lap at Jennings was set on a 2nd gen.

Clif Notes: The 2nd gen can still get down and is easy to ride. If you want to compete for expert-level podiums, get a 3rd gen.
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Love the connect throttle feeling I get from my S over the "r" fly by wire.... Some have also stated you can get better front end feel from the S, but I'm not fast enough to notice.


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Re: Possible 2nd Gen R6 Trackbike build

Well suddenly I found a 2006 fully race prepped for a great price. I was all set to build an S but this would save me thousands and thousands.

7100 miles, 3000 of which are track on the stock motor. He has paperwork and pictures to prove all this. Will I need to worry about the motor giving up anytime soon?
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