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Experience, either direct or vicarious, can be the cause of fear as well.
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Experience, either direct or vicarious, can be the cause of fear as well.
Meaning that sometimes having knowledge about something or experience with something can actually cause more fear than not? Would a crash be an example of that? If you haven't crashed, maybe you don't fear crashing as much but if you did crash and get really hurt then there may be more fear because of it?

If that's the case, how do we get over (or continue to ride) when we have experienced bad things when riding?

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Meaning that sometimes having knowledge about something or experience with something can actually cause more fear than not? Would a crash be an example of that? If you haven't crashed, maybe you don't fear crashing as much but if you did crash and get really hurt then there may be more fear because of it?

If that's the case, how do we get over (or continue to ride) when we have experienced bad things when riding?
I actually have less fear of crashing now that I've had several opportunities to experience it. Common knowledge says if you crash a motorcycle at 100mph you will die. I know people who do it about once a week. I've done it a few times, and didn't die. (I did get really hurt one time) Now my only fear of crashing is what it is going to cost to fix me and my bike, so I can go crash again.

Misti, you can't possibly be as nervous or afraid as you come across. Whether you are or not...either way...PLEASE get yourself to a trackday. Then come back and tell us how much fun you had and how you worried for nothing.
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I actually have less fear of crashing now that I've had several opportunities to experience it. Common knowledge says if you crash a motorcycle at 100mph you will die. I know people who do it about once a week. I've done it a few times, and didn't die. (I did get really hurt one time) Now my only fear of crashing is what it is going to cost to fix me and my bike, so I can go crash again.

Misti, you can't possibly be as nervous or afraid as you come across. Whether you are or not...either way...PLEASE get yourself to a trackday. Then come back and tell us how much fun you had and how you worried for nothing.

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I'm actually a coach with the California Superbike School and a Moto journalist (former AMA Pro 600 racer as well). When I'm not riding I like to post questions and initiate conversation on various forums in hopes of helping people to learn something new and pay more attention to their own riding. I definitely have lots of fun at track days and am not nervous myself, I just like to really understand where fear arises and how my students can overcome their own fears, mainly by learning and truly understanding good riding technique. I posted a link (above) to my most recent track day experience, riding Aragon in Spain in October last year. The video is onboard with me, my first day riding the track as part of the Race Academy school with Troy Corser.
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Meaning that sometimes having knowledge about something or experience with something can actually cause more fear than not? Would a crash be an example of that? If you haven't crashed, maybe you don't fear crashing as much but if you did crash and get really hurt then there may be more fear because of it?

If that's the case, how do we get over (or continue to ride) when we have experienced bad things when riding?

The reason I say this, is the fact that sooo many people in conversations about m'cycles, have shared stories with me about why they quit riding. I'm a little surprised to find that sooo many people who really don't ride, have ridden before. Many quit riding either due to direct or indirect experiences. Some have just come out and stated that it wasn't for them.



What anyone does with such experiences is totally upon the individual. Same people can look at the same story book verses and have completely opposite viewpoints or interpretations. Same people can look at the accomplishments and scandals of two totally different presidents and (profess to) have wildly different outlooks on them.



Also I suspect that regardless of how much they may say otherwise, like a football player coming off a major injury, the first ride after a crash is going to be a bit more reserved. (possible exceptions being these types of conditions - (
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But there are folks who are just plain crazy. They'll wreck their bike and try to wreck yours too - if you let'em.

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Biggest cause of fear would be the unexpected loss of "control" and trying to make adjustments does nothing.
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Biggest cause of fear would be the unexpected loss of "control" and trying to make adjustments does nothing.
Meaning that even if you are making the correct adjustments, you still can't regain control?

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Meaning that even if you are making the correct adjustments, you still can't regain control?
Like say you are leaned over and the front starts to wash out because the road section was slippery. It regains after but that moment of losing grip is a heart dropper.
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Looking stupid.
Cost of repair.
Getting hurt.
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Looking stupid.
Cost of repair.
Getting hurt.
That can easily be fixed by proper training and maintenance.
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