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Recommended mods for a Newbie taking it to the track for the 1st time??

I know that platics are definately recommended and probably racing tires for optimum stickiness......but what else?

Is a steering damper needed? How about the brakes? Will the stock brakes be good enough for a beginner to come to a halt? Its my first track session so I don't expect to go out and be Rossi.......yet. . . .
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Re: Recommended mods for a Newbie taking it to the track for the 1st time??

Nothing extra is really needed for your first time.

The brakes will be perfectly adequate.

A damper might be nice, but it's not really a necessity for your first time out.

Race tires will be a complete waste in the Novice Group. Seriously. The newer sport-touring tires are adequate, though I recommend regular sport tires. I know guys in the Advanced Group running regular Pilot Powers and running at least 10 seconds per lap faster than me.

Race bodywork is nice if you're going to crash, but that really doesn't happen in the Novice Group very often. For my first track day, I was too nervous to really push my limits very far, mostly because it was raining, but also because I'm a wimp and the thought of crashing isn't pleasant. I've been doing a few track days per year since 05 and I just bought my first set of race bodywork last week.

The only thing I would really highly recommend would be getting your suspension setup properly. That will be more beneficial than any shiny trinkets.


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Nothing extra is really needed for your first time.

The brakes will be perfectly adequate.

A damper might be nice, but it's not really a necessity for your first time out.

Race tires will be a complete waste in the Novice Group. Seriously. The newer sport-touring tires are adequate, though I recommend regular sport tires. I know guys in the Advanced Group running regular Pilot Powers and running at least 10 seconds per lap faster than me.

Race bodywork is nice if you're going to crash, but that really doesn't happen in the Novice Group very often. For my first track day, I was too nervous to really push my limits very far, mostly because it was raining, but also because I'm a wimp and the thought of crashing isn't pleasant. I've been doing a few track days per year since 05 and I just bought my first set of race bodywork last week.

The only thing I would really highly recommend would be getting your suspension setup properly. That will be more beneficial than any shiny trinkets.
Ok....Got it! Thanks for responding!

Did you have any problem installing your plastics? I want 2 do as much of the work myself as possible and was curious if you had any problems lining things up......I know they come 'predrilled' but that doesn't always means its right...
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I bought a used set, so alignment was the last guy's problem...

And I haven't installed them yet. They're still in the box.


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I bought a used set, so alignment was the last guy's problem...

And I haven't installed them yet. They're still in the box.


That works! Guess, no over night hours in the garage with the crazies for you.
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Re: Recommended mods for a Newbie taking it to the track for the 1st time??

plastics aren't necessary, but are nice. Stock brakes will be fine as long as there's meat left on the pad. I would suggest flushing your brake fluid though if it hasn't been done in the last year. Any street tire will work fine (pilot power, supercorsa, bt0016, etc). Your first time at the track really doesn't require much be done to the bike. You're first time at the track as a rider will be totally different than as a spectator though, so I suggest you find someone thats done at least 3 or 4 trackdays and go to the track with them. This way you'll have someone who is versed in registration, tech inspection, etc and the whole process will go smoother for you.

Also, someone mentioned either here or the other thread, but being as your a girl and are probably light for the stock suspension, I would ask the track club beforehand if a suspension guy will be there, and pay the 30-40 dollars to have it setup. Proper sag and rebound will make the biggest difference to the bike.
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Re: Recommended mods for a Newbie taking it to the track for the 1st time??

Depending on riding style and experience a steering damper might be worth it. If your going to be at Lightning at NJMP there is a blind turn (turn 1) that has a hill on corner exit. I know that i was getting headshake coming over the crest hard on the gas... and that was with a steering damper (on the lowest setting). So it might be a nice piece of mind, but def not a must. As far as tires, I used Pirelli Diablo Corsa III's there and put two track days on them and they performed beautifully. So i would recomend them. Im bumping up in classes so i'm making the jump to race rubber, so we'll see how that goes.

But if it comes down to money for tires, or money for a damper... I would get a set of DCIII's or equivalent before a damper. Best of luck... and be careful... track days are addicting!
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Re: Recommended mods for a Newbie taking it to the track for the 1st time??

oh.... and stainless lines make a huge help... and are fairly cheap, but sportbike brakes even in stock form are pretty mind blowing that the average rider (myself included) will probably have a hard time ever seeing the limit of them.
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Re: Recommended mods for a Newbie taking it to the track for the 1st time??

THANKS YZRM1-R6! I was wondering about the brake lines.....Based on everyone's recomendations, looks like I can concentrate on getting the right gear and then worry about mods later (next summer, or maybe even the next).

I've decided to take everyone's advice and definately take the riding class....I'm so EXCITED!!! I've been on YouTube watching a gazillion videos!!! I have the Lightening Track at Thunderbolt memorized...turn by turn......I CAN"T WAIT!!!!!!!

Yah, I know.....I'm giddy.....so WHAT!!
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plastics aren't necessary, but are nice. Stock brakes will be fine as long as there's meat left on the pad. I would suggest flushing your brake fluid though if it hasn't been done in the last year. Any street tire will work fine (pilot power, supercorsa, bt0016, etc). Your first time at the track really doesn't require much be done to the bike. You're first time at the track as a rider will be totally different than as a spectator though, so I suggest you find someone thats done at least 3 or 4 trackdays and go to the track with them. This way you'll have someone who is versed in registration, tech inspection, etc and the whole process will go smoother for you.

Also, someone mentioned either here or the other thread, but being as your a girl and are probably light for the stock suspension, I would ask the track club beforehand if a suspension guy will be there, and pay the 30-40 dollars to have it setup. Proper sag and rebound will make the biggest difference to the bike.

THANKS MAN!! I'll make sure I look for the suspension guy! I bet having the right set up does makes it that much nicer....
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