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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-30-2008, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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So I've been practicing riding around in parking lots to try and improve skills that aren't street friendly (wheelies are so much fun
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), but I've found I run into a serious mental block when getting approaching a steep lean angle. Especially when turning right.

I've seen a few videos of people dragging a knee while driving around in a circle in a parking lot, but I can't seem to force myself to get the bike leaned over very far at slower speeds. It feels like I'm fighting the bike and about to crash it if I go any further. Is this just a mental block? Or if I feel like the bike is about to lowside, then it probably is. Is the bike's max lean angle different for lower speeds?

I'm trying to improve my riding skills safely, but a lack of extra cash prevents track school and a lack of friends that ride prevent instruction. I'm already reading Sport Riding Technique and Twist of the Wrist II, I just need specific help when practicing.

Any advice or pointers would be helpful. Anybody in San Diego that want's to be a mentor for an enthusiastic new rider would receive a good amount of charity at happy hour.
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post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-30-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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I don't even know if I could get a knee down in a parking lot. Slow speeds are harder than fast for steep lean angle. Best word of advice, get out of the parking lot.
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post #3 of 46 (permalink) Old 10-30-2008, 08:51 PM
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I don't even know if I could get a knee down in a parking lot. Slow speeds are harder than fast for steep lean angle. Best word of advice, get out of the parking lot.

i disagree..... He can practice corning and proper body position

Obviously the track is the best place to learn but if he can't get to a track a parking lot is probably his next safest option

Dragging knee at 15-20 mph is very easy

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If you feel the bike is getting loose then the bike is not settled and you will low side. One you prob don't have enough heat in the tires for grip, two your body position is prob all wrong, three going in circles isn't exactly the best to get a knee down.

Being able to set the bikes suspension properly going into a corner, and being able to accelerate out of the turn help also becuase your not focused on the turn your already looking down the track to the next turn or focusing on the tuck going down the straight.

You are no where near the bikes max lean angle, when you are dragging elbows then i would say you are.

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The parking lot is pretty big, maybe 100 X 200 yards and completely empty after hours. I just don't like testing limits I haven't tested before on public roads. My problem is just that I can't determine if the what I perceive to be wrong is in my head (because I haven't leaned it over this far before) or if there is actually something unsettled. For the most part, it feels really solid and I keep the speed and throttle very constant, but the further I lean over, the more I'm fighting the handlebars and I can't tell if it's because I'm approaching a limit or if it's supposed to be that way.

I know this is hard to explain without seeing something, I'll try and record it so I can post a vid and have you all critique me.
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I hope you have frame sliders.
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Of course, first mod I got.
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Well then have at it.
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Plenty on instructionals on you tube like they say body position is crucial feeling comfy in the lean yet still in control is going to make you feel more secure about taking it to the ground , me and my boy practice early sunday mornings on the mixmaster and you can keep looking around great practice
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try taking he opossite hand off the bar. You are fighting yourself. Obviously you can't remove your right hand but what I mean is relax your grip to the extent that only one hand is giving the bar input.


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