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11-01-2018 03:57 PM
Intuit
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

Who has wrecked or directly witnessed a wreck that was a result of "tank slapper" or head shake? (excluding those who are doing stunts)

In my few experiences over 40K+ street, the event ceases, almost as quickly as it begins.
10-30-2018 05:07 PM
TurboBlew
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

youre kind of incorrect. Its DAMPER. Dampener sounds like something you put in a wet basement.

Let me ask if youve ever ridden any bikes from the 60s or 70s or 80s? Twitchy?
With 120mm front tires and 180mm rear... what twitches? The R6 in its stock form needs some ride height adjustments and most likely the correct spring rate for a rider (thats not a mythical 120lbs). Stock tires are borderline garbage.
10-22-2018 01:18 PM
MotoMedic
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

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So you spent $500 on damper. How much have you spent on actual riding training? Or track days on closed courses?
The OP asked specifically about exhausts and dampeners. I was simply attempting to give him some feedback on the latter.

While training and closed courses are ideal, they may not be accessible/practical for everyone. I'm not arguing that a stabilizer is better than training, however, the main advantage for the OP is adding a steering stabilizer is an immediate change/improvement while training will take time.

In my opinion, the stabilizer makes the bike feel more stable / less twitchy. Increasing the steering effort decreases accidental steering inputs.



*Yes, the term damper is more commonly used but technically damper and dampener have the same definition / may be used interchangeably.
10-16-2018 04:30 PM
TurboBlew
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

Ken Hill does private days. His free podcasts are some of the most generous knowledge sharing in the industry!
10-16-2018 03:56 PM
FlyMode
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I don’t mean to sound like every other new street rider but I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! It’s a different beast I know! That’s why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads I’d ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and I’m definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! I’ve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but it’s my favourite bike! Always has been and I don’t think I’ll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
its DAMPER.
They used to just come in a linear piston type and you made your own brackets.
But again... your bike has been racking up MILLIONS of miles on a streets and racetracks everywhere around the globe for more than 12 years! Tires are more important than a "dampener"...lol.
Also properly setting up your suspension (ride height, sag, spring weight, etc) should be way ahead of a damper.

Also there is only 1 person you should be listening too...
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You know what man that’s a great idea I never thought about a riding coach!!! I want to be the best rider I can be and not make terrible mistakes. I feel like I’m taking this whole riding thing a lot more serious than most people but I value my life a lot so why not!

Well there it is than gonna look for a coach in my area! Probably a better investment
10-16-2018 03:53 PM
TurboBlew
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

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I'm also a rookie supersport rider (got my 2017 about 4 months ago) and I'd say, if you have the money, get the dampener. I added mine after riding a couple weeks and immediately noticed the difference. It made the bike feel less twitchy.
I went with the GPR V4 because the controls are easy to change with gloves on and just I like the way it looked (versus the Scotts or Ohlins). Dampener settings are 0 - 20.
I started using it on setting 14 then as I became more comfortable I dropped down. Currently running it around 8 and it feels perfect (to me).
did you buy a 2nd GPR? Cause you will be mailing 1 of them in annually to get the seals replaced or rebuilt.

Scotts is Ohlins (or Ohlins is Scotts)... just rebranded. Ohlins does have a linear type. Again... you pay a convenience charge for those kits.

So you spent $500 on damper. How much have you spent on actual riding training? Or track days on closed courses?
10-16-2018 03:47 PM
TurboBlew
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

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I donít mean to sound like every other new street rider but Iíve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! Itís a different beast I know! Thatís why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads Iíd ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and Iím definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! Iíve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but itís my favourite bike! Always has been and I donít think Iíll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
its DAMPER.
They used to just come in a linear piston type and you made your own brackets.
But again... your bike has been racking up MILLIONS of miles on a streets and racetracks everywhere around the globe for more than 12 years! Tires are more important than a "dampener"...lol.
Also properly setting up your suspension (ride height, sag, spring weight, etc) should be way ahead of a damper.

Also there is only 1 person you should be listening too...
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10-16-2018 01:22 PM
MotoMedic
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

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Donít see anything there man?
I donít mean to sound like every other new street rider but Iíve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! Itís a different beast I know! Thatís why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads Iíd ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and Iím definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! Iíve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but itís my favourite bike! Always has been and I donít think Iíll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
I'm also a rookie supersport rider (got my 2017 about 4 months ago) and I'd say, if you have the money, get the dampener. I added mine after riding a couple weeks and immediately noticed the difference. It made the bike feel less twitchy.

I went with the GPR V4 because the controls are easy to change with gloves on and just I like the way it looked (versus the Scotts or Ohlins). Dampener settings are 0 - 20.

I started using it on setting 14 then as I became more comfortable I dropped down. Currently running it around 8 and it feels perfect (to me).
10-15-2018 05:39 PM
FlyMode
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Fly mode check ur messages lol
Don’t see anything there man?

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What type of stabilizer is your go to? I’ve heard there are electronic ones that dampen harder with speed!?
what you should do is learn to ride a motorcycle first.
Your bike comes with 50mm fork tubes x2. Also 17" wheels, 310mm front discs, and fantastic radial 4 pot calipers mated to a brembo master.
Now if you said youre going racing... then yeah a damper is required as part of safety tech for WERA. Not so much for CCS or other orgs.

I cant see why a damper would be needed for "street riding" when you never leave the center of the saddle and can get by with "hanging duck feet" footing position.

Also your bike makes peak torque north of 11,000 rpms. There is nothing you can do to change this. Matter of fact the R6 is a terrible street bike. The R6S is better suited for the street but again... peak torque is ~10,600. Whats peak torque? You got some reading to do! <img src="
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I don’t mean to sound like every other new street rider but I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! It’s a different beast I know! That’s why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads I’d ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and I’m definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! I’ve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but it’s my favourite bike! Always has been and I don’t think I’ll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
10-15-2018 03:39 PM
TurboBlew
Re: R6 Newb! With Questions....Of course

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What type of stabilizer is your go to? Iíve heard there are electronic ones that dampen harder with speed!?
what you should do is learn to ride a motorcycle first.
Your bike comes with 50mm fork tubes x2. Also 17" wheels, 310mm front discs, and fantastic radial 4 pot calipers mated to a brembo master.
Now if you said youre going racing... then yeah a damper is required as part of safety tech for WERA. Not so much for CCS or other orgs.

I cant see why a damper would be needed for "street riding" when you never leave the center of the saddle and can get by with "hanging duck feet" footing position.

Also your bike makes peak torque north of 11,000 rpms. There is nothing you can do to change this. Matter of fact the R6 is a terrible street bike. The R6S is better suited for the street but again... peak torque is ~10,600. Whats peak torque? You got some reading to do!
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