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still new to riding but i have around 6k miles of experience anywho back to the point. I recently got the diablo rosso and did about 100-200 miles commuting miles the sides looking new still. well this saturday i took it out for a ride on the twistys and my first run going up was fine but heading back down i low sided pretty hard :mad: so my question is do i have to break in the sides slowly before pushing it?
 

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Well I think that you just answered your question with the experiance you just had. That being said I always like to do a good low air pressure side to side burnout on the slick garage floor when I get a new tire to burn off the new tire crap they put on them. It only take a few seconds and there ready to go.
 

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You have to be aware they are slippery when new but it doesn't take much to get them run in. You just need carefull throttle and braking and get them edge to edge. Where you leaning more on the way down and getting into the unscuffed area of the tire?
 

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Where you leaning more on the way down and getting into the unscuffed area of the tire?
Yea I believe so cause once I got my bike home my tires chicken strips were ripped off about 6-8 inches the rest was still there..
 

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That being said I always like to do a good low air pressure side to side burnout on the slick garage floor when I get a new tire to burn off the new tire crap they put on them. It only take a few seconds and there ready to go.
I don't got the balls yet to do a burnout I tried once but gave up...
 

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Dude, just ride about 20 miles, weaving from time to time to warm them up and then just go rail them. They will be fine within one rotation on the side. The reason why you slid is probably more due to your riding and suspension rather than your tire.

I take brand new tires to the track and turn one is 120-130 mph carocell(sp?) and I just get on it.

They will hold.

As for the guy that does burnouts....that is about the most gay, poser thing I have ever heard of. Why would you even give such stupid advice.
 

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2 warm up laps on the track then balls to the wall. It don't take a lot of miles to scuff up the rubber, just let them warm up a little. now, cold tires, now that will get you everytime.
 

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As for the guy that does burnouts....that is about the most gay, poser thing I have ever heard of. Why would you even give such stupid advice.
:lmao

I was wondering how he figured burnouts would help scuff the parts of the tires you actually use while turning.
 

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:werd a burnout isn't the best advice and i wont even take the risk anywho thanks to everyone else for all the input i'll try getting pics up of my bike when i get repairs done... i'm going with race fairings as its hard to get street fairings replaced...
 

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Dude, just ride about 20 miles, weaving from time to time to warm them up and then just go rail them. They will be fine within one rotation on the side. The reason why you slid is probably more due to your riding and suspension rather than your tire.

I take brand new tires to the track and turn one is 120-130 mph carocell(sp?) and I just get on it.

They will hold.

As for the guy that does burnouts....that is about the most gay, poser thing I have ever heard of. Why would you even give such stupid advice.
First off gay and poser are best left to you. Second a track isn't the road you drive on, so with that said, I got that lesson from a guy that has been riding longer than 20 yrs, and a bike mechanic for Yamaha for 18 of those yrs I would take his word over your I just bought my bike and have posted more threads than miles on the bike.
 

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First off gay and poser are best left to you. Second a track isn't the road you drive on, so with that said, I got that lesson from a guy that has been riding longer than 20 yrs, and a bike mechanic for Yamaha for 18 of those yrs I would take his word over your I just bought my bike and have posted more threads than miles on the bike.
"the track isn't the road you drive on"?:dunce: WTF does that mean? You're an idiot. Stop riding before you hurt yourself or someone else.

If your machanic gave you that advice, find a new machanic. If you have more posts than miles on your bike, you're a gay computer nerd that needs to go ride and stop posting. Also, if you are so new to the sportbike world, stop giving advice because you have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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Well I just got the Rosso yesterday and have to get them broken in as well, needless to say I wont be doing any burn outs, that would only get the part fo the tire you are normally on anyways, just the center portion. Wouldnt help you much on the outter portions (while your leaned over). You are for more agressive on the tires and demand more from them while on the track then the road hands down. If he runs the track and they break in for him then I am almost 100% sure they will be fine for the street.

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i just got my corsa III"s and have about 20 miles on them.. This morning on my way home from work i was getting off the highway and decided to take the offramp a little hot no faster than what ill push my lifted truck to on it though and my rear broke loose and almost made me lowside. I dont know how youll go full lean after two warm up laps withought going down
 

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i just got my corsa III"s and have about 20 miles on them.. This morning on my way home from work i was getting off the highway and decided to take the offramp a little hot no faster than what ill push my lifted truck to on it though and my rear broke loose and almost made me lowside. I dont know how youll go full lean after two warm up laps withought going down
By activly warming the tires...your little highspeed onramp was probably on cold tires, or at least they werent at proper operating temperature
 

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when warming up tires (by riding) how do you warm them up, just ride normal for some amount of time, or what? By warm does that mean if you just ride on the center of the tire does that mean the outter sides are warmed up as well.
 

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I completely agree, I don't think your tires are to blame or at least not 100% for your fall dude. It's easy to blame the tires because it's the only contact between you and the road (I certainly know it's usually my initial reaction - but I think thats akin with denial), but there are a lot of reasons that tires slip - weight distribution, suspension disruption, speed/traction overload (too much speed at low traction moments) - the list goes on. But you'll notice in all of those - the driver initiates the transgression.
On new tires, warming them up its just the same as warming your engine, but you've gotta thinking about the sides. In any case, on a normal spring day after a few miles your tires will be good to go. BUT because they are new you should be careful, track or not, that means slowly increasing your lean angles, not jerking around with the throttle and the brakes, you need to be extra smooth (should aim to be all the time anyway). Complete your breaking before you corners, I wouldn't trail brake on new tires, front or back unless I've already hit the low angles. When in the corner go into maintenance throttle and stay there, keeping a nice 40/60 (front/rear) weight distribution until you start your exit.
That said - I think you probably just upset your suspension at a relatively new angle to the tires and caused a loss of traction. I've definitely done new tires at the track and after a warm-up they are good to go for the first lap, as long as your smooth on throttle and brakes.
 

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i didnt actually fall it just lost traction. I was on the highway for about 5 miles and before i got on the highway i had about 5 miles on the street so my tires were definitly warmed up . I do try to be as smooth on the brake and throttle as i possibly can. I think part of it that is my error was i was heavy on the front i had alot of weight on the bars so that may have been it.
 

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Weight on the front during a turn will compress your forks - you don't want them too compressed, not for the least of which because you'll find it more difficult to make subtle changes, and because it leaves less room for the suspension to do it's second job - coping with the road surface. When your front fork is too compressed during a turn, it's a setup for a loss of traction - a slight bump could mean that your forks can't compress enough, leaving all of the remaining load on the tires - if they are "too busy" on traction - well ... something's gotta give :(
Good that you were able to correct yourself on3go without bitting it! Hope you got the lesson or at least part of it. Weight distribution is really important in your turns and in general. I can say for sure, I've been down in large part because I was too front heavy, and I've been down because my forks were fully loaded and could no longer cope with the road surface due to my improper weight distribution (riding position).
 

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Ok I know a really good way to Warm your tires up let all of the air out of the rear and ride on the interstate at about 80 then get off and add air and go on your way..... I of course am totally joking here I just say this because I got a flat on the interstate the other day and when I exited to figure out what the hell was going on with my bike and noticed my rear tire was flat I touched it and it was hot as hell also it was pretty scuffed up so that might help with breaking in new tires as well. Again I was Joking here don't do this for real as you will crash. But I just got my new back tire and haven't had any problems yet I have about 100 miles on it and it feels pretty good.
 

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im slowly learning. I only have about 600 miles or so on a sportbike so its a whole new world for me that im slowly getting the hang of
 
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