[krisrtnz]

Hey everyone,

I have been riding for about 4 years and really having trouble with tight cornering on the r6 2013.

talking specificly, at low speed cornering from a stop, i find that using 1st i cant cruise around the corner consistently (like i could in my FZ6R) its either speed up or slow down, 2nd is a little better although any attempt to ease off the throttle even just a little bit causes my bike to jerk forward during a corner. the only way to ease off is by playing with the clutch then trying to get the revs right mid corner to pull the clutch back out.

so you know what im talking about its a roundabout from hell. small tight and on abit of a hill, the whole thing is on a lean to one side :werd

 

[NugesR6]

Hey everyone,

I have been riding for about 4 years and really having trouble with tight cornering on the r6 2013.

talking specificly, at low speed cornering from a stop, i find that using 1st i cant cruise around the corner consistently (like i could in my FZ6R) its either speed up or slow down, 2nd is a little better although any attempt to ease off the throttle even just a little bit causes my bike to jerk forward during a corner. the only way to ease off is by playing with the clutch then trying to get the revs right mid corner to pull the clutch back out.

so you know what im talking about its a roundabout from hell. small tight and on abit of a hill, the whole thing is on a lean to one side :werd

Get your ECU flashed. It will help with the jerking twitchy throttle, among other positive things.

"It just doesn't matter"

 

[Goatse]

So are you saying the throttle is too touchy?

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[krisrtnz]

So are you saying the throttle is too touchy?

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thanks for the quick reply

that could be the problem, i only notice it during low speed cornering. when i accelerate the bike is very jerky. at first i thought it was a loose chain being the drive was pulling too much slack before the acceleration got to the sprocket.
i took it to the bike shop for the first service they said the chain and riding was fine

 

[krisrtnz]

Get your ECU flashed. It will help with the jerking twitchy throttle, among other positive things.

"It just doesn't matter"

cheers NugesR6, ill look into it. does the yamaha dealer have to do this of can i do it at home?

 

[NugesR6]

cheers NugesR6, ill look into it. does the yamaha dealer have to do this of can i do it at home?

Your best bet is ChiefSmokeDawg of Bauce Racing on the forum, what's your location? Your dealer probably wont so this so youll haft to find someone.
Our fly by wire throttles on the 06 + R is very twitchy, especially in 1st gear.

"It just doesn't matter"

 

[sidavong]

Get the bauce tune and then get the motion pro throttle. No matter which cam you use to make it the same degree of turn or go crazy to a 1/4 or 1/8 turn I can guarantee you that it will be smoother.

For some reason no matter how much you adjust the throttle cables theres always that "slack" before the throttle comes on. The bike likes to rev high so any low RPM street riding is even moreso magnified.

 

[drbyers]

For some reason no matter how much you adjust the throttle cables theres always that "slack" before the throttle comes on. The bike likes to rev high so any low RPM street riding is even moreso magnified.

I never knew this. The ninja 250 i rode in my MSF course had the exact same problem, but I think the throttle cable just needed adjusting. It made my attempts at conquering the evil "box" a headache. I'd try to manipulate the throttle and I would shoot outside the lines. I just gave up and accepted the point deductions.

So there really is no fix for first gear launches? That might be a deal-killer in my search for an R6.

 

[FZ1guy]

It's a combination of fuel injection and emission control. The injectors are turned off above idle with no throttle. When you crack the throttle, the injectors come back on and jerk. It's not just an R6 thing. Get a flash or a PCV.

 

[Flyers28]

I am a rookie rider so learning things as well, but you mentioned slow tight corning and the jerking messing you up. Had the same problem on my 250 and in my MSF course. I found that if you keep throttle open enough to keep you from stalling then use rear brake to control speed instead of throttle it was easier to control the bike around corners. Also used the clutch once in awhile to also help control speed. This could be a terrible method though and could be completely different on a 600. That jerking messed me up so many times during the msf course.

 

[RandomTask]

I am a rookie rider so learning things as well, but you mentioned slow tight corning and the jerking messing you up. Had the same problem on my 250 and in my MSF course. I found that if you keep throttle open enough to keep you from stalling then use rear brake to control speed instead of throttle it was easier to control the bike around corners. Also used the clutch once in awhile to also help control speed. This could be a terrible method though and could be completely different on a 600. That jerking messed me up so many times during the msf course.

This. Flyers28, you've got it right. Basic riding 101. Feather that clutch and work the rear brake. If you're going slow at a crawl around a bend, it doesn't matter what bike you have or how good or bad your on/off throttle fueling is. Learn to feather your clutch. Set your revs up to mid level 5K or higher, then feather the clutch. Practice it in the parking lot. If you haven't, go take the MSF Basic course. Worth way more to you as a new rider than a fuel controller or ECU tune. One of my bikes is a 2007 Ducati 1098; V-twin with a dry clutch and notoriously grabby. I've been riding over 10 years and between my 1098 and my R6 it is a world of difference at slow speed but I ALWAYS feather the clutch for slow speed maneuvers. It's a fundamental riding skill you need to learn.

 

[Fallis]

This. Flyers28, you've got it right. Basic riding 101. Feather that clutch and work the rear brake. If you're going slow at a crawl around a bend, it doesn't matter what bike you have or how good or bad your on/off throttle fueling is. Learn to feather your clutch. Set your revs up to mid level 5K or higher, then feather the clutch. Practice it in the parking lot. If you haven't, go take the MSF Basic course. Worth way more to you as a new rider than a fuel controller or ECU tune. One of my bikes is a 2007 Ducati 1098; V-twin with a dry clutch and notoriously grabby. I've been riding over 10 years and between my 1098 and my R6 it is a world of difference at slow speed but I ALWAYS feather the clutch for slow speed maneuvers. It's a fundamental riding skill you need to learn.

This. All the way. This is a rider skill issue, not a mechanical problem. Just need to practice slipping that clutch for situations like this.