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I got $10,000 in cash to wager and a couple of mini bikes you wont be able to demonstrate your "flat out" skills within 10 laps or better yet... you wont be able to do a single lap under 45 seconds given the whole day to practice.
Pick a weekend date... and show up at this address.(with your $10,000)
453 Hillbridge Road, Dublin, GA

Probably best to PM me. If youre serious:wink:
What time did you get there first?
 

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You should just sell your motorcycle and move on to a hobby like Drone Flying or something less dangerous.
2 things are clear to me with your post... first your mind is not open to learning new things. Second you are focusing on inanne bullshit that has shit all to do with a green rider. Put the ego in the corner and check your bullshit at hot pit. 1 or 2 or 15 corners into the day you'll either be dead or having fun. As a newb... unless youre riding with ACE... most orgs will have a "lead follow" protocol. Sure you can lie your ass off and say you ride at an "expert level"... 2 or 3 laps of you missing apexes and parking it will tell them all they need to know so you'll be bumped into the proper group. :fact:fact:fact:fact:fact:fact:fact:fact:fact:fact:fact
https://www.pacifictracktime.com/rider-groups/

Here's the guidelines on the different groups and suggested lap times. The CRs will also monitor how predictable you are when riding, your ability to consistently follow your lines/the race line, and safety in regards to passing and other riders while on the track.

Suggested for LS as an example: Sub 1:50s.

One thing I've learned, all Orgs aren't the same.





Am I wrong?
 

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https://www.pacifictracktime.com/rider-groups/

Here's the guidelines on the different groups and suggested lap times. The CRs will also monitor how predictable you are when riding, your ability to consistently follow your lines/the race line, and safety in regards to passing and other riders while on the track.

Suggested for LS as an example: Sub 1:50s.

One thing I've learned, all Orgs aren't the same.





Am I wrong?

You want me to get less than 45 seconds when the track record is 1:50?
 

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https://www.pacifictracktime.com/rider-groups/

Here's the guidelines on the different groups and suggested lap times. The CRs will also monitor how predictable you are when riding, your ability to consistently follow your lines/the race line, and safety in regards to passing and other riders while on the track.

Suggested for LS as an example: Sub 1:50s.

One thing I've learned, all Orgs aren't the same.

Am I wrong?
No. Ive ridden with PTT... they are pretty good.
However you have to also assess the region youre riding too. Expert at Chuckwalla or Laguna say with TrackDayz is a group thats really fast. Bumping down or starting in the middle group might be suggested. Then again you may get leftover experts that want to ride but theres only spots in the middle group...lol.

Maybe one day Ill get the opportunity to race some west coast tracks and push the pace abit faster.
 

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You want me to get less than 45 seconds when the track record is 1:50?
did you google the address I gave you? Id bet you cant do a lap under a minute because lets face facts... you wont have the skills to do so.

45 seconds is about the cut off between Beginner & Advanced groups.
Show up... click off 1 44 second lap and take home $10,000. Ill even extend the offer to the counter clockwise direction as well. Remember you'll have to pay me $10,000 if you dont. :fact

And yes there is an "official" lap timing system in place. The laptimer dont lie! :wink:
 

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No. Ive ridden with PTT... they are pretty good.
However you have to also assess the region youre riding too. Expert at Chuckwalla or Laguna say with TrackDayz is a group thats really fast. Bumping down or starting in the middle group might be suggested. Then again you may get leftover experts that want to ride but theres only spots in the middle group...lol.

Maybe one day Ill get the opportunity to race some west coast tracks and push the pace abit faster.
I was comfortable with people passing me as I'm at the tail end/slower part of Advanced. I plan to ride either A or B group depending on what's available as long as others/CRs aren't coming to me with tons of errors in my riding. Me in B group, at least the tracks and orgs I've been with, I seem to be doing quite a bit of passing occasionally. By no means am I fast - yet. :grin:

Ehhh, it's a constant learning experience. One learns by doing and seeking help for improvement.
 

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did you google the address I gave you? Id bet you cant do a lap under a minute because lets face facts... you wont have the skills to do so.

45 seconds is about the cut off between Beginner & Advanced groups.
Show up... click off 1 44 second lap and take home $10,000. Ill even extend the offer to the counter clockwise direction as well. Remember you'll have to pay me $10,000 if you dont. :fact

And yes there is an "official" lap timing system in place. The laptimer dont lie! :wink:
What time did you get?
 

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damn how many people did you run over that day marquez?
I didnt run over anyone... made my move(s) off the start and got away fairly clean til the red flag.
That vid was pieced together from 3 or 4 different cameras.

you can view some of his work here:
https://vimeo.com/thundermultimedia

Not only is he a first rate producer...he can ride the balls off a dirty bike with street tires.(and anything with 2 wheels) :wink:

Attached a pic of a friends GoPro capture when there was no qualifying based on pace and a typical grid snap
 

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more hanging off.

suspension settings are reading tire wear and improving feel of the bike for the rider. the sag and all can have an effect on your lean angle. if the springs are not strong enough for your weight the bike will sag a lot in the rear and throw the handling off.

there is no one setting fits all answer. it comes down to rider. how fast you can ride. next is tires. it comes down to knowing what the tire wear is doing. check out dave moss tuning videos on youtube.

you'd be surprised how little you are hanging off and leaning if you see some pictures of yourself. it takes some getting used to leaning. the whole knee on the ground thing is for gauging how far you are leaned. most of us stop when we feel it touch. and in a picture we're like wtf, i'm barely leaning.

when you are doing it this much, you're at the limit. btw, don't try this on a stock bike with consumer grade tires. the max a normal bike can do is about 50 degrees. that picture is about 64 degrees. and it's probably a really slow corner. like under 50mph.
Exactly, more hanging off = lesser lean angle of the bike but how come this is true scientifically?
 
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