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What is the best way to set the bike up other than setting sag for your weight and adj. the suspension. I weigh 175 lbs with out gear. For exampe on my older 04 636 you had to make the forks flush with the top triple and lower the rear so I could get it to handle right for me ( I did this along with others and it worked great) others just raised the front and left the back alone. Would anything similar need to be done with the 08 R6 or maybe even lower the front and raise rear etc.. Or do most of you leave it the way it is and just ride?...:toocool:
 

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i did raise the forks i think around 5mm.. nothing rediculous.. it felt great.. i later replaced the internals with ohlins.. next trip to the track.. set it up one way in the morning and then change it for the afternoon session to compare what feels best to you
 

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So by raising you mean - raising the forks 5mm (more than what is stock) above the triple thus lowering the front ? Or do you mean raisng the front end (triples) thus sliding the forks down 5mm?
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If you don't know what you are doing, or are trying to figure it out...save yourself the hassle of screwing up the suspension settings (and possibly causing yourself to wreck due to said settings).

Take it to a professional shop and have them do it. It's only $25 - $30 to get done and well worth every penny.
 

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If you don't know what you are doing, or are trying to figure it out...save yourself the hassle of screwing up the suspension settings (and possibly causing yourself to wreck due to said settings).

Take it to a professional shop and have them do it. It's only $25 - $30 to get done and well worth every penny.
I do know what I am doing as I have done it to all of my other bikes, but the R6 is new to me, I have already set the sag my self and made all the necessary adj. for my weight, just looking for any extra info/tips for those of you who race the bike. For example, I lowered the rear and raised the front on my 636 and it made a huge difference, so when other 636 owners would ask me what mods I had done to the susp. I would let them know what worked for me and if they tried it and liked it than :toocool:

So what I am looking for here is the same, some ppl mean different things when they say raise the front, Im just wanting to make sure we are on the same page..
 

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++ what Trevor said. Best money you'll ever spend.

There's a good series of videos on YouTube with Dave Moss. One series is a few years back with my old R6. That may get you started.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TirbXsRCVm4&feature=related

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Those are good vids, thanks !

I have a local NESBA control rider who also works on suspension and we did mine so as far as SAG and weight settings Im all good.. I just wanted to see what everyone else is doing regarding ride height adjustments with the stock suspension..
 

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When i raced the r6 below, i went all round the houses looking for suspension settings I liked, with 5 rounds of the series left, I had ended up back at the stock settings, that worked at all tracks so I left it.
Unless your spending big money on things ohlins\wp\maxton.

For example dropping the forks can make it frisky under braking, raising the rear will make it spin on a worn tyre (talking extremes here tho)
By all means get it set by a pro for your weight, then hop on and ride the thing.
 

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This is why I raised the front and lowered the rear on my 04 636 it made it much more stable when entering the corner and made it not feel like it wanted to wash out mid corner. I know the 636 had an aggressive rake so I had to adjust for that, I have set the R6 up for me and it (08 R6) feels much better. Again, I am curious to see if anyone else is leaving the height stock or are they changing rake/trail etc..
 

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two words......Dave Moss....the best suspension guy around...i pay him 20.00 to dial my bike in...check him out on you tube.
 

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two words......Dave Moss....the best suspension guy around...i pay him 20.00 to dial my bike in...check him out on you tube.
I bought dave's videos. very informative. from what he does to a bike, it's a waste of time to take it to a "shop". it has to be adjusted and evaluated each time you take it out, until the optimum setting is reached for your speeds and the track.
and he says the faster you go, the more you have to adjust it. basically there is no "one optimal" setting.
he goes by tire wear and just overall setup.
I was surprised to see how much chain slack he wants to see to eliminate it from binding the rear.
right at the rearset, it should touch the swingarm.

he also said the high and low speed adjustments on a new R6 (06 to be exact) is useless, it doesn't work at all according to the testing they did on it.

http://onthethrottle.alpha.rnbstudi...roducts_id=2&zenid=sug5732b0capldkffeae4osn92
 

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Ive done a little bit of playing with my 06R6 suspention. I was told that dropping the rear and raising the front would help it also.

Forks were flush with the triple and 2nd notch on rear. Felt pretty good untill I really leaned the bike over in a corner. The front was really twitchy and unstable. Not to inspiring if you ask me. I lowered the front so the fork was on the first line sticking out of the tripple. Takes a bit more effort to rotate the bike off power but once leaned over its rock solid.

Took it to the track like this and it was perfect all day. Solid, stable everywhere and good feed back. It would also run a way tighter line coming out of the corner on power but it was not over steering or trying to break the rear lose. Very neutral mid corner and felt like it was on a rail.

I did mange to lift the front coming out of a corner still leaned over pretty good. Needless to say, Im very happy with the way the bike feels now.

Hope this helps
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1) Trail that bitch out
2) Ohlins 20 mm kit in the front
3) Ohlins TTX36 rear

Let it eat!

I had 2 lowsides (tucked the front) on stock suspension when the pogo effect started and ended the fun. After 2 full trackdays on properly setup suspension, the bike is on rails and the ability to carry speed into the braking zone, cornerspeed thru the apex, and powering out of the corner is phenominal compared to stock.
 
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