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Fot those that have been on race slicks operating at the optimal temperature, how much different does a Supercorsa V2 and/or a Q3 feel at the track also operating at optimal temperature?

Is anyone running Supercorsas or Q3s that ride WERA or CCS?
 

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Supercorsas and Superbike slicks (in the same compound) feel exactly the same because they are the same tire. You'll never feel the siping. Q3s feel very different because they aren't in the same league. Less grip, and it gets worse after a while when they can't shed heat fast enough. I've never seen anybody race on Q3s.
 

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Supercorsas and Superbike slicks (in the same compound) feel exactly the same because they are the same tire. You'll never feel the siping. Q3s feel very different because they aren't in the same league. Less grip, and it gets worse after a while when they can't shed heat fast enough. I've never seen anybody race on Q3s.
Thanks for the insight.

Is this one of those "how can I save a buncha money on tires when I go racing???" questions is it?
No. I'm debating between the two, and I wonder how close each will feel to a slick. Next season I plan to have an additional set of wheels with slicks. My lap times and riding by then should be enough to keep them up to temperature while riding.
 

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No. I'm debating between the two, and I wonder how close each will feel to a slick. Next season I plan to have an additional set of wheels with slicks. My lap times and riding by then should be enough to keep them up to temperature while riding.
oh... I know WERA allows slicks in ALL classes now. Pretty sure CCS still mandates DOTs in Supersport. :wink:
 

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Supercorsas and Superbike slicks (in the same compound) feel exactly the same because they are the same tire. You'll never feel the siping. Q3s feel very different because they aren't in the same league. Less grip, and it gets worse after a while when they can't shed heat fast enough. I've never seen anybody race on Q3s.
For clarity it's the Supercorsa SC race DOT's that are the same compound as the Superbike Slicks. There is a street version of this tire, the Supercorsa that is a direct competitor to the Dunlop Q3.

Warmers should be used with the Supersorsa SC and Superbike slicks. No warmers required for the street Supercorsa or Q3's.
 

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Oh, in that case... those SPs will feel similar to the Q3. They're in the same category. I thought you were only talking about SC compounds.
 

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It really depends on your riding and pace. The slow end of advanced group is probably the fastest you can go where you won't notice a difference in grip. However, it's one of those things where the better (smoother) you're riding, the less you'll notice since you won't be asking the tire for as much grip at the extremes.

If you were racing mid-pack in the amateur class, you may not feel like you're losing time, but you probably would go a bit faster on a race compound. You'll notice the grip fall off after a couple hot laps, especially on a hot day. At that point, the street tires aren't lasting any longer anyway, so there's no point to run them. And obviously, the faster you go the bigger the difference.

One of my friends was on Q3s for a long time and would ride at what would probably be mid-pack amateur pace. He was happy with it, but the bike was clearly moving around more than it should be. After a crash he lost confidence in his tires, but then he moved to a set of Pirelli SC2s and they felt much better. He wishes he tried them out sooner.

What's your situation? Are you trying to save a few bucks on tires, or maintain a double duty street/track tire?
 

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I'm trying to get the best DOT tire as close to the feeling of a slick for roughly 50/50 track street as my 6 will become my dedicated track bike in the not so far future. I need a tire I can run mid to upper level intermediate group preparing myself for the slow end of advanced. By then, I plan to be using extra wheels, warmers, and slicks.

This is me gradually working my way up to faster lap times using the right tires for the heat, speed, and abuse to come once I advance.

I also know I'll probably be averaging about 2500 miles or so out of a set, so...
 

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Without warmers, and riding on the street, go with Q3s or Michelin SuperSports.
Thanks, but my last 3 sets of tires were Michelin. Time to try something new.

I'm more leaning towards track duty as a first, and then street fun as a distant second.
 

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Thanks, but my last 3 sets of tires were Michelin. Time to try something new.
I'm more leaning towards track duty as a first, and then street fun as a distant second.
Just realized my street gsxr has take off Dunlop UK Ntecs from 2010. The sides are toast but the middle is like new. Guess maybe I should fit some new take offs to it soon. :wink:
 

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My mate used to run Q3's while I ran Supercorsa SC's in Australia. The Q3 is fine for track days unless you're in the fastest group, but as you get faster you'll find you chew through tyres like crazy. He was in the 2nd fastest (intermediate/fast) group and wore through his Q3's every 3 track days. The supercorsa sp v2 will be good for a little more grip compared the Q3, but it won't be as good as a pure racing tyre, like the supercorsa SC. I don't recommend using the SC compounds on the road, they're slippery as hell when cold, you'll need to use them with warmers. Optimally, I say get a spare set of rims, one for road, one for track, but if you don't have the $$$ for that, get the supercorsa SP V2's for the best street tyre.
 

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Forgot to mention, get a 180/60 rear, they now offer that for the sp v2's and its incredible. I'll only run a 180/60 rear for the massive contact patch now. The grip is next level.
 

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If things go well, I plan on having Q3s for street/canyon carving, and SC SP V2s for the track - separate sets of wheels.
 
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