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Just wondering what you guys (Who've attended track days) think about using the Kawasaki Ninja 300 as a track bike.

I signed up for TeamPro-Motion for 2013 (Inside Pass) and plan on attending probably 4-5 track days @ NYST. This is going to be my first year doing track days, and will be my 3rd year riding motorcycles.

I was thinking about converting my R6 to a street/track bike, or picking up a used older R6 or ZX6R or CBR to be a track-only bike, but my dad wants to get back to street riding with me, but he doesn't want to spend a lot of money - so he came up with the idea of going halves on the Ninja 300. (He can ride on the street, and I can use it as my track bike)

Whatcha guys think? I like the idea because I think I'll be able to focus more-so on technique rather than focus as much on throttle control.

Of course I'll be in the Beginner Group, being my first year, but do you think I'll outgrow the 300? I figure I could probably get 2 years of track-days out of the 300 (at least) before wanting to go up to a 600cc, but would love the opinions of those of you who have actually experienced the track and know what they're talking about. :sing

Thanks!

UPDATE: I bought the 300 today :)
 

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I think your going to get bored as hell when everyone and their mother is passing you on the track. Now if you were racing a 300 in a relevant class it would be different. If your dad wants something cheap and you want something for the track then an SV650 is the way to go.
 

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Small displacement bike is great for learning. I'm picking up a 250 to go race this year. It'll teach you how to carry corner speed and you will get the chance to pass plenty of people in beginner and intermediate.

If you're interested in eventually racing it, then keep in mind the 300 doesn't really fit into any race classes at the moment since it's a weird displacement and Kawisaki is the only manufacturer making a bike in that size.

If you're going to split it with the pops and keep it usable on the street I imagine you'll end up getting a different bike if you want to race later on.
 

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I think your going to get bored as hell when everyone and their mother is passing you on the track. Now if you were racing a 300 in a relevant class it would be different. If your dad wants something cheap and you want something for the track then an SV650 is the way to go.
Not true. A ninja 300 would be sick for track days. A lot or the more experienced guys are riding 250's on the track to work on technique, and just because they are a hell of a lot of fun. Track days aren't a race, and you will be faster than a lot of guys out there if you start on a smaller bike. I'd love a 250 to go track only on. Bronco, how many track days have you done? What tracks? what group?
 

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I think your going to get bored as hell when everyone and their mother is passing you on the track. Now if you were racing a 300 in a relevant class it would be different. If your dad wants something cheap and you want something for the track then an SV650 is the way to go.
I also have to disagree. I know a girl that runs her 250 at the track and can pass 600s in the turn all day long. In fact my friend that rides a zx6r still loves to talk about the day she passed him (in the intermediate group). I think she runs advanced sometimes but her lap times just don't compare overall to the other guys out there simply because of straight away speeds.

While I have never ridden a 300, having ridden a 250 I would imagine the 300 would be a blast at the track. :YEA
 

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I'd ride the piss out of a 250 on track. Fun race class too. Cheap as well.

I'm betting the 300 will find its way into a class and will be VERY impressive. Get it - and don't look back.


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Just my opinion. This past year I rode with TPM. Can you have fun with a 250 on the track? Sure. Can you have fun with any bike on track? Absolutly. But if I had my choice for a cheap street/track ride as a second bike an sv650 would be what I went for. Parts and extras can be had for cheap and are easy to come by and it does well on tires.
 

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Why don't you and pops find an older kaw 250 for the track they can be had for a song and you won't have to worry about wadding it up, or feeling bad when you do. If I had to do it all over 250 would be my first choice. NYST looks great really trying to attend a track day there if it's anything thing like VIR North I'm there!!! I'm a TPM member also. I thought I would only do 4/5 trackdays my first year 8 trackdays later finally realized I'm hooked!!
 

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Why don't you and pops find an older kaw 250 for the track they can be had for a song and you won't have to worry about wadding it up, or feeling bad when you do. If I had to do it all over 250 would be my first choice. NYST looks great really trying to attend a track day there if it's anything thing like VIR North I'm there!!! I'm a TPM member also. I thought I would only do 4/5 trackdays my first year 8 trackdays later finally realized I'm hooked!!
Well, he just wants to get back out on the street though. Claims he's too "old" for track days @ 56, but, I'm going to try and have him do a TD with me this year. :popcorn:

Since he wants a street bike, he likes the idea of the 300 with a little more power than the 250 for the mountain rides we usually take.

I've done several TD's on the R6 and am looking to going next season on a 250 simply to work on my technique etc. You should do it!!
We're going to the dealership tomorrow to see what we can do. :mrgreen:
 

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You can have a lot of fun on the 300. Many guys go smaller displacement for the track and love it. The speeds are down so your chance of being seriously injured are reduced. It's a whole lot more fun chasing down faster bikes with an under powered bike. I can still recall almost every time I have gotten the drive out of a corner to hold off a liter bike or come around a liter bike with my 6. I can't even begin to recall chasing down equal bikes. I say get the 300 and work on your skill set. You will be amazed how many bigger bikes you can pick off once you get the skills.
 

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I'd ride the piss out of a 250 on track. Fun race class too. Cheap as well.

I'm betting the 300 will find its way into a class and will be VERY impressive. Get it - and don't look back.
We changed our Moto3 rules for 2013 to include the 300. We've also got a lightweight endurance class that thing would be perfect for. Several clubs around the country have some pretty good 250 grids with great racing.

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You can have a lot of fun on the 300. Many guys go smaller displacement for the track and love it. The speeds are down so your chance of being seriously injured are reduced. It's a whole lot more fun chasing down faster bikes with an under powered bike. I can still recall almost every time I have gotten the drive out of a corner to hold off a liter bike or come around a liter bike with my 6. I can't even begin to recall chasing down equal bikes. I say get the 300 and work on your skill set. You will be amazed how many bigger bikes you can pick off once you get the skills.
I can certainly recall a fair amount of 250s blasting by me while I was on the R6. :laugh

Last track day a dude on a 250 absolutely stuffed me up the inside. He was hauling and I imagine it would have completely killed his momentum if he had to get on the binders for my slow ass.
 

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I dunno about NYST bro... I believe a few pretty significant people have already spoken out about how they will never ever ride that track.

Even the TD org I'm affiliated with booked days there, but not till late in the summer since it doesn't really get hot up there till later in the season.

The entry and exit on that track doesn't exist at all. It's like entering the track into 140 MPH pack of bikes at the end of the straight. They need to build a bridge or something or someone will get killed.

And the run off is REAL questionable. They claim to be clearing more trees, etc, but I know of a couple turns that are VERY dangerous with minimal run off.

I'm just throwin this out there for you bro. I'll prolly come up and see what it's about, but I also went all the way to WV to ride Shenandoah and it's surrounded by cement walls.. :laugh
 

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I run both my 250 and r6 on the track.

250 or 300 they are a *****ing blast and yes if you can enter hot and carry speed, you can bust dat ass of a larger cc bikes.



 
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