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Hey guys new member here! FlyMode, from the land of the snow and igloos where we ride 6 months out of the year(the pain is real!) and by ride I mean horses during the summer and our pet moose in the winter.

I just bought an 08 r6! What a machine, lacking in the Lower rpms! Yes I know track driven engineering . Eventually I’ll do the sprocket swap 2 down 1up(maybe I have the wrong but I’ll drink that syrup once I get there. [its a Canadian saying])

Anywho I have a few questions! Of course what new person on the forum wouldn’t!! Just bear with me! I know everyone is all over the map on these subjects, “just ride your bike and find out for yourself “ and I will! I would just like to get ahead of the game here!! If you can answer these questions I will forever be in debt !

One: Looking for a slip on, don’t need a full exhaust not trying to make more jam! Just want to hear some louder noises! I would like to keep the servo and exup valve system in, I’m not sure if any slip ons allow for that! If so is there any you guys could reccomend if not I’m more than likely just going to go with an akro or hotbodies megaphone!

Two: I don’t plan on tracking for the first 2 or so years of owning this bike, but as I mentioned earlier I live in the wild wild north! The roads are paved but #backroadracetrack would you think a dampener is a good idea or ride it out stock hit a few speed wobbles and decide from there if I’m not part of the Canadian landscape after that experience?! If so electronic or the good old fashion ones whatever they’re called!

That’s about all I can think of for now! Any replies and recommendations would be great!

Thanks guys!!!
 

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No slip on will allow the use of the exup valve. You have a few options here. You keep the servo plugged in (to avoid error code) but you remove the cables. You remove the entire thing and get a exup eliminator (little box that plugs into the electrical connector). Or you get your ECU flashed and remove the entire thing.

Learn to ride properly and you don't need a dampener.
 

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No slip on will allow the use of the exup valve. You have a few options here. You keep the servo plugged in (to avoid error code) but you remove the cables. You remove the entire thing and get a exup eliminator (little box that plugs into the electrical connector). Or you get your ECU flashed and remove the entire thing.

Learn to ride properly and you don't need a dampener.
Yeah Ive been doing some research on the whole exup system and I would like to keep it working until I get a full exhaust and change up the sporckets, Im just going to hack up and paint the stock exhaust , than next season the fun will really begin!

I guess the best idea would be to learn from other good riders around me and not develop bad habits!
 

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Exactly. And don't learn from the youtube motovloggers, half of them have no clue haha. There are a wealth of great books and proper videos available as well. A lot can be learned from experienced track riders. The important thing is body positioning and staying lose on the bars not only in straight line but throughout the corner. Let the bike be able to do it's thing. It took me a while to realize just how tense I was on the bike through a corner. Once I realized this and was able to stay lose on the bars my cornering was 10x better. It becomes so much easier to make mid corner corrections and if you hit a bump the bike is better able to stabilize itself. I have never used or felt I needed a stabilizer. But to each their own.
 

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I install a steering stabilizer to all my bikes. It doesn't hurt to have one. Better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it. I say if you can afford one, why not install one.
 

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I install a steering stabilizer to all my bikes. It doesn't hurt to have one. Better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it. I say if you can afford one, why not install one.
What type of stabilizer is your go to? I’ve heard there are electronic ones that dampen harder with speed!?
 

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I install a steering stabilizer to all my bikes. It doesn't hurt to have one. Better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it. I say if you can afford one, why not install one.
Ok... lets say you've had 4 bikes. I would venture to guess thats about $1600???

Now tell us exactly how much you spent on "riding training". Not an MSF class but actual instruction on how to ride a sports bike?
 

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What type of stabilizer is your go to? I’ve heard there are electronic ones that dampen harder with speed!?
what you should do is learn to ride a motorcycle first.
Your bike comes with 50mm fork tubes x2. Also 17" wheels, 310mm front discs, and fantastic radial 4 pot calipers mated to a brembo master.
Now if you said youre going racing... then yeah a damper is required as part of safety tech for WERA. Not so much for CCS or other orgs.

I cant see why a damper would be needed for "street riding" when you never leave the center of the saddle and can get by with "hanging duck feet" footing position.

Also your bike makes peak torque north of 11,000 rpms. There is nothing you can do to change this. Matter of fact the R6 is a terrible street bike. The R6S is better suited for the street but again... peak torque is ~10,600. Whats peak torque? You got some reading to do! :wink:
 

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Fly mode check ur messages lol
Don’t see anything there man?

What type of stabilizer is your go to? I’ve heard there are electronic ones that dampen harder with speed!?
what you should do is learn to ride a motorcycle first.
Your bike comes with 50mm fork tubes x2. Also 17" wheels, 310mm front discs, and fantastic radial 4 pot calipers mated to a brembo master.
Now if you said youre going racing... then yeah a damper is required as part of safety tech for WERA. Not so much for CCS or other orgs.

I cant see why a damper would be needed for "street riding" when you never leave the center of the saddle and can get by with "hanging duck feet" footing position.

Also your bike makes peak torque north of 11,000 rpms. There is nothing you can do to change this. Matter of fact the R6 is a terrible street bike. The R6S is better suited for the street but again... peak torque is ~10,600. Whats peak torque? You got some reading to do! <img src="http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/images/R6-Forum_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
I don’t mean to sound like every other new street rider but I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! It’s a different beast I know! That’s why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads I’d ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and I’m definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! I’ve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but it’s my favourite bike! Always has been and I don’t think I’ll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
 

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Don’t see anything there man?
I don’t mean to sound like every other new street rider but I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! It’s a different beast I know! That’s why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads I’d ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and I’m definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! I’ve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but it’s my favourite bike! Always has been and I don’t think I’ll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
I'm also a rookie supersport rider (got my 2017 about 4 months ago) and I'd say, if you have the money, get the dampener. I added mine after riding a couple weeks and immediately noticed the difference. It made the bike feel less twitchy.

I went with the GPR V4 because the controls are easy to change with gloves on and just I like the way it looked (versus the Scotts or Ohlins). Dampener settings are 0 - 20.

I started using it on setting 14 then as I became more comfortable I dropped down. Currently running it around 8 and it feels perfect (to me).
 

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I don’t mean to sound like every other new street rider but I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! It’s a different beast I know! That’s why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads I’d ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and I’m definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! I’ve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but it’s my favourite bike! Always has been and I don’t think I’ll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
its DAMPER.
They used to just come in a linear piston type and you made your own brackets.
But again... your bike has been racking up MILLIONS of miles on a streets and racetracks everywhere around the globe for more than 12 years! Tires are more important than a "dampener"...lol.
Also properly setting up your suspension (ride height, sag, spring weight, etc) should be way ahead of a damper.

Also there is only 1 person you should be listening too... Podcasts

Have fun! :wink:
 

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I'm also a rookie supersport rider (got my 2017 about 4 months ago) and I'd say, if you have the money, get the dampener. I added mine after riding a couple weeks and immediately noticed the difference. It made the bike feel less twitchy.
I went with the GPR V4 because the controls are easy to change with gloves on and just I like the way it looked (versus the Scotts or Ohlins). Dampener settings are 0 - 20.
I started using it on setting 14 then as I became more comfortable I dropped down. Currently running it around 8 and it feels perfect (to me).
did you buy a 2nd GPR? Cause you will be mailing 1 of them in annually to get the seals replaced or rebuilt.

Scotts is Ohlins (or Ohlins is Scotts)... just rebranded. Ohlins does have a linear type. Again... you pay a convenience charge for those kits.

So you spent $500 on damper. How much have you spent on actual riding training? Or track days on closed courses?
 

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I don’t mean to sound like every other new street rider but I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was a wee lad! It’s a different beast I know! That’s why I want to take every precaution possible cuz I do enjoy my life! I feel a dampener would be a decent idea to avoid tank slappers on some of the roads I’d ride, not the cleanest !!

Obviously I will get to know the bike by riding that is true and I’m definetly going to be watching tons of videos and asking riders tons of tips to become a better rider! I’ve done tons of research on what 600 is best, yes the r6 is geared towards the track and not the best street bike but it’s my favourite bike! Always has been and I don’t think I’ll ever own another brand . For the near future anyway
its DAMPER.
They used to just come in a linear piston type and you made your own brackets.
But again... your bike has been racking up MILLIONS of miles on a streets and racetracks everywhere around the globe for more than 12 years! Tires are more important than a "dampener"...lol.
Also properly setting up your suspension (ride height, sag, spring weight, etc) should be way ahead of a damper.

Also there is only 1 person you should be listening too... Podcasts

Have fun! <img src="http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/images/R6-Forum_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink"
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You know what man that’s a great idea I never thought about a riding coach!!! I want to be the best rider I can be and not make terrible mistakes. I feel like I’m taking this whole riding thing a lot more serious than most people but I value my life a lot so why not!

Well there it is than gonna look for a coach in my area! Probably a better investment
 

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So you spent $500 on damper. How much have you spent on actual riding training? Or track days on closed courses?
The OP asked specifically about exhausts and dampeners. I was simply attempting to give him some feedback on the latter.

While training and closed courses are ideal, they may not be accessible/practical for everyone. I'm not arguing that a stabilizer is better than training, however, the main advantage for the OP is adding a steering stabilizer is an immediate change/improvement while training will take time.

In my opinion, the stabilizer makes the bike feel more stable / less twitchy. Increasing the steering effort decreases accidental steering inputs.



*Yes, the term damper is more commonly used but technically damper and dampener have the same definition / may be used interchangeably.
 

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youre kind of incorrect. Its DAMPER. Dampener sounds like something you put in a wet basement.

Let me ask if youve ever ridden any bikes from the 60s or 70s or 80s? Twitchy?
With 120mm front tires and 180mm rear... what twitches? The R6 in its stock form needs some ride height adjustments and most likely the correct spring rate for a rider (thats not a mythical 120lbs). Stock tires are borderline garbage.
 

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Who has wrecked or directly witnessed a wreck that was a result of "tank slapper" or head shake? (excluding those who are doing stunts)

In my few experiences over 40K+ street, the event ceases, almost as quickly as it begins.
 
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