So read up on cutting the stock pipe on my 04 and the people who did it said they liked it and it sounded good and what not and I thought it looked a bit better than the huge bulky can, cut my pipe and its loud as hell, and well sounds good at idle but thats about it. Moron move on my part since now I think it sounds like a civic ricer on crack, and at certain rpm's the sound resonates something awful and headache followed even wearing earplugs. So it made the choice for me that I need a slip on. The guys at the local shop said the microns werent bad slip ons for the price, but after reading what you guys have said probably wont go that way. What do you guys recommend, kinda on a budget and been looking at ebay. Dont want hellishly loud either, I like my hearing. So would I be better dropping $50 on a used stocker or buying a used slip on at the $350ish range? Scorpions any good? Found a few on ebay for around $250ish shipped, one was a h/m. As the guys at the shop said budget and slip ons dont go together, and I know you get what you pay for, what do you guys think?