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Yes they look the same except like mentioned above earlier diffrent ECU maping and ECU or brain , some fueling changes have been made , some timing changes also these alone can account for the slight gain in Hp from the earlier R6 .

now do you have a S model or the newer R6 that replaced my model as top of the food chain 600

I guess I'll have to look into the matter more thoroughly before I comment further.


In any case, I owned a blue 2004, then sold it and bought a grey 2007 (3rd gen body style) then bought a red set of plastics and some projectors... the rest was history. :love

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Discussion starter · #23 ·
For example your 2004 used 38mm suction piston FI throttle bodies

while 05 and up use the 40 mm FI throttle bodies .

05 was also the only year for radial brakes and USD forks on the R6S model

all other years use conventional 43 mm cartraige forks .
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
here is a section of a write up on the 2005 R6S


Yamaha also made some subtle modifications to the R6's engine, giving it larger throttle bodies with asymmetrical intake horns and corresponding revisions to the fuel and ignition mapping. The goal was to shore up a weak midrange while gaining a few extra ponies up top, but our dyno test showed nearly identical power curves. This was especially strange to those among our test group who raved about the Yamaha's midrange snap.

"I think what I was feeling was the 25-hp gain between 8,700 and 10,000 rpm that's a pretty big jump in a short period of time," says Chamberlain. "The fact that it slightly falls on its face right before this gain emphasizes the hit even more. The R6 motor offered up a huge dose of power around 9000 rpm that easily brought up the front end in the lower gears."


Full link here . http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/268/737/Motorcycle-Article/2005-Yamaha-YZF-R6-Comparison.aspx
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
thats your own write up lacking fine details from hundreds of pages of information out there .

How am I miss informed 05 was the only year the USD was used on the R6 now the R6S


2006 and up or the R6 R uses the USD forks but its a completly diffrent bike the R6S
 
here is a section of a write up on the 2005 R6S


Yamaha also made some subtle modifications to the R6's engine, giving it larger throttle bodies with asymmetrical intake horns and corresponding revisions to the fuel and ignition mapping. The goal was to shore up a weak midrange while gaining a few extra ponies up top, but our dyno test showed nearly identical power curves. This was especially strange to those among our test group who raved about the Yamaha's midrange snap.

"I think what I was feeling was the 25-hp gain between 8,700 and 10,000 rpm that's a pretty big jump in a short period of time," says Chamberlain. "The fact that it slightly falls on its face right before this gain emphasizes the hit even more. The R6 motor offered up a huge dose of power around 9000 rpm that easily brought up the front end in the lower gears."


Full link here . http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/268/737/Motorcycle-Article/2005-Yamaha-YZF-R6-Comparison.aspx

You didn't read what I wrote... yes, the 05 is different. The rake is changed, the forks are inverted, the rotors are different, the throttle bodies, etc are different. We can agree on that... What we DISAGREE on, is that you seem to think that the S models have all the good stuff the 05 had, except (apparently) the inverted forks... This is not true. The S model is EXACTLY the same as the 2004 R6. Down to the bolt (except for the paint and stickers).
 
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You didn't read what I wrote... yes, the 05 is different. The rake is changed, the forks are inverted, the rotors are different, the throttle bodies, etc are different. We can agree on that... What we DISAGREE on, is that you seem to think that the S models have all the good stuff the 05 had, except (apparently) the inverted forks... This is not true. The S model is EXACTLY the same as the 2004 R6. Down to the bolt (except for the paint and stickers).


come on now there all the same except minnor tweeks over the years i said this but your on a no theres ZERO change from what i read .

I showed you were the powercomander 5 fits the later R6S but you were sure it took the older 3 now that alone is a big change from early models why because its a diffrent ECU .
 
come on now there all the same except minnor tweeks over the years i said this but your on a no theres ZERO change from what i read .

I showed you were the powercomander 5 fits the later R6S but you were sure it took the older 3 now that alone is a big change from early models why because its a diffrent ECU .

I'm sorry, I straight up don't believe you. The dyno-jet website is all effed up anyways, they tried showing me a pumpkin orange 2009 and telling me it was a 2004. :nono


Unsubscribing now. :wave
 
you could save more weight and get a better tune by doin smog block offs...
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
I'm sorry, I straight up don't believe you. The dyno-jet website is all effed up anyways, they tried showing me a pumpkin orange 2009 and telling me it was a 2004. :nono


Unsubscribing now. :wave
Thats good we didnt need ya here anyway but ill take a pic of the 5 for you in my tail section just so the rest of the board can see a PC5 does fit the NEWER R6S and love the blame on Dynojet that there web site is faulty

you just cant own up you dont know as much as you thought you did .

how old are you ? do you own your own repair shop , can you split cases and build your own motors and realy race as oposed to prentending
 
I did that already just didnt mention that
well, that would be a good weight savings thing to mention in the "main weight savings" previously stated...

Also, yes you're correct the pcv fits the newer S models...probably because the pc3 is an older product so the newer S model got a different comp to accommodate the V (just speculating)

r6s is identical to the 2nd gen 03-04 r6
- http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/500/0/specs.aspx
- http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/21740/Buyers-Guide-Specifications/2004-Yamaha-YZF-R6.aspx

I cant split shit or race...nor do i build my own parts, so dont ask or try playin your "i'm a bike building God" card. I do have simple/moderate maintenance on lock though :sing

Quick question on your gearing, what made you go up in the front to a 17T sprocket? I always figured doin track racing you'd wanna get out quicker and have a bit more down low and go with maybe a 15/48 setup. Yeah you've got a bit more top end but you're not gonna hit it anywhere in the course.
 
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well, that would be a good weight savings thing to mention in the "main weight savings" previously stated...

Also, yes you're correct the pcv fits the newer S models...probably because the pc3 is an older product so the newer S model got a different comp to accommodate the V (just speculating)

r6s is identical to the 2nd gen 03-04 r6
- http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/500/0/specs.aspx
- http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/21740/Buyers-Guide-Specifications/2004-Yamaha-YZF-R6.aspx

I cant split shit or race...nor do i build my own parts, so dont ask or try playin your "i'm a bike building God" card. I do have simple/moderate maintenance on lock though :sing

Quick question on your gearing, what made you go up in the front to a 17T sprocket? I always figured doin track racing you'd wanna get out quicker and have a bit more down low and go with maybe a 15/48 setup. Yeah you've got a bit more top end but you're not gonna hit it anywhere in the course.
My above comments or bike skills were not aimed towards you . No Im not a bike god or claim to be just a bit better than the average rider/wrench
that was aimed at Mr pick pocket who refuses to accept there were changes/improvements how ever small they may be .

17 tooth is for the Hwy / touring , all my bikes get used from track to tour duty . the 17 adds a few mpg @ hwy speedd to extend the small 4.5 gallon tank . most of my riding friends have 5 to 6 gallon units so longer rides i need to make the most of 4.5 and running down one and up 2 like most R6's wont get you very far with us since we usualy go 180 miles before a stop and up to 220 if everyones bike can strech that long .

Clip ons are stock just reversed left to right and right to left . New control locating pin holes and the end machined off the clipons as to allow rotation foward .
 
17 tooth is for the Hwy / touring , all my bikes get used from track to tour duty . the 17 adds a few mpg @ hwy speedd to extend the small 4.5 gallon tank . most of my riding friends have 5 to 6 gallon units so longer rides i need to make the most of 4.5 and running down one and up 2 like most R6's wont get you very far with us since we usualy go 180 miles before a stop and up to 220 if everyones bike can strech that long .
Gotcha...was curious why ya went that way. Makes sense...

Reason askin was cause i (like a lot of others) am runnin the 15/50 setup
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
Gotcha...was curious why ya went that way. Makes sense...

Reason askin was cause i (like a lot of others) am runnin the 15/50 setup
stock 16/48 was fine on the race track I may run 16/49 next time but keeping up in the revs and never letting off stock gearing didnt disapoint

by the way a 17 up front is like a speedo healer it makes the stock gauge read with in .3 of the GPS only drops RPM's about 150/200 hard to read @ 6 k doing 70 mph on the tach
 
Thats good we didnt need ya here anyway but ill take a pic of the 5 for you in my tail section just so the rest of the board can see a PC5 does fit the NEWER R6S and love the blame on Dynojet that there web site is faulty




Check the attachment.

you just cant own up you dont know as much as you thought you did .

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Think what you want, tool bag.



how old are you ? do you own your own repair shop , can you split cases and build your own motors and realy race as oposed to prentending
Old enough to know a fawkin idiot when I see one..


My e-cock is 12 inches long. How about yours?

Also, yes you're correct the pcv fits the newer S models...probably because the pc3 is an older product so the newer S model got a different comp to accommodate the V (just speculating)

r6s is identical to the 2nd gen 03-04 r6
- http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/500/0/specs.aspx
- http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/21740/Buyers-Guide-Specifications/2004-Yamaha-YZF-R6.aspx

I cant split shit or race...nor do i build my own parts, so dont ask or try playin your "i'm a bike building God" card. I do have simple/moderate maintenance on lock though :sing
:stupic Jesus god.. Go ride across the country or something. :rolleyes:
 

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Just the response i kind of expected from a kid on tuper ware forum .

All because you cant belive what you know to be false .

here PCV love how ya throw in what you think your dick size . Like that matters here .

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Here is the GP shift set up for the rest of the R6 forum

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And do you remember when bikes had these carbs . This set need some new O rings between the vents/fuel rails and minnor cleaning so i split the bank apart for service .

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