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Do I Need a Tune?

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My wife got me an Olson Y-Pipe and a GYTR exhaust for Christmas and from what I've heard I will need to get the bike tuned once I get these things installed. I think I may also get some block off plates too.

My question is do I need a tune? I don't want to add these parts and have it run worse.

Also, what is the difference between the Bazzaz Z-AFM Fuel Mapping System and the Bazzaz Z-FI Fuel Management System?

What's the difference between the Dynojet Auto Tune for Power Commander V and just the Dynojet Power Commander V? Will I need to get the hardware and the software?

Do they already have the tune loaded on the module?

Any clarifications for a newbie would be much appreciated.
 
#2 ·
Your air/fuel ratio will be a little out of whack with that setup - so a tune is highly recommended. It will just pop and what not without..

The Z-AFM is a "self-mapper" and the Z-FI is the fuel controller. The ZFI (or PC3, PCV) is the necessary component - self mapper is optional (choose between that and having it dyno tuned at a shop)

Same thing applies for Power commander auto tune.

You can get base maps from various websites - but they're not great.

All of this information and a ton more is available if you look around the site.

Good luck.
 
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Well, from my experience, yes you should tune it regardless if it "SEEMS" fine after the modifications. What you are doing when you add the pipes, and plates is changing the dynamics of the engine, but the ecu "stock" fuel map is set up for optimum performance with stock parts on it.

I don't know much about the Bazz system, but I do have the Dynojet system. The PC system is easy to install and comes with the software already and in the event you ever loose the software you can always download it from Dynojets website. Programming can be a little complicated, but more times then not there are maps to download of the Dynojet website that will get you somewhere in the ballpark of where you need to be. After I installed my exhaust and air filter, I took mine to get it tuned to get the most out of it. Every once and a while i'll plug it in to tweak it just a bit. Hope this helps a bit.
 
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Ok this is how it works.

Stock:
The ecu sends the fuel map to the injectors and the bike runs fine.

PC-V
The ecu sends out the stock fuel map, the PC-V intercepts it, makes adjustments to it, then sends it out to the injectors.

The PC-V is inline.. another words, your ECU is still going to have the stock fuel map on it. The PC-V plugs into the wiring harness of the ECU and intercepts the stock map and re edits it and then sends it on its way.

When you buy the PC-V it won't have a map on it, you will have to A.) Download one, B.) Program it yourself with a laptop, C.) Take it to a shop and have them dial it in or D.) get the autotune and have the bike figure itself out.


All the auto tune does is allow you the freedom of not having to tune it yourself and lets the bike map itself.
 
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Ok this is how it works.

Stock:
The ecu sends the fuel map to the injectors and the bike runs fine.

PC-V
The ecu sends out the stock fuel map, the PC-V intercepts it, makes adjustments to it, then sends it out to the injectors.

The PC-V is inline.. another words, your ECU is still going to have the stock fuel map on it. The PC-V plugs into the wiring harness of the ECU and intercepts the stock map and re edits it and then sends it on its way.

When you buy the PC-V it won't have a map on it, you will have to A.) Download one, B.) Program it yourself with a laptop, C.) Take it to a shop and have them dial it in or D.) get the autotune and have the bike figure itself out.
Ah! Thank you! I now understand.
 
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