If the rear indicators are becoming running light you have a loop.

This means in the front, your running light (blue) and indicator wires(brown) (both positive) are touching (creating a circuit).

You cannot do that.

 

That's pretty much the point of the Magic Blinkers though. To safely merge those two lines but somehow it's kicking back into the harness.

Any chance it could be because I only have one side of the front blinkers hooked up? Thoughts?

 

Are you using this diagram?

You may need another resistor so the bike knows there is a bulb there to stop the hyperflash

 

I was using that but now that I think of it I was running the resistor between ground and running light not ground + blinker...
Update to come

EDIT: No such luck running resistor(s) between g+b

 

Bump

 

I'm not familiar with the Rizoma lights, so let me verify this... you're using the stock brake light, which also doubles as your rear running light, correct? The Rizomas are turn signal only on both the front and rear? And you only want the front Rizomas to double as running lights?

Have you looked at these threads: http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2294272#post2294272 and http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148648 ?

The first one has some info from when I installed two wire front turn signals on my 03 with integrated rear lights. The second shows a couple other methods for getting running lights on the front.

Attached is the relevant section of the wiring diagram from the 06 service manual. If it were me, here's how I would try:

Connect load resistor between green and black, and between red and black on the turn signal connectors (at either the front or rear). That should make the flasher happy. Then connect the rear LED signal like normal (- to black, + to green/red). On the front, connect the LED signal with + to blue and - to green/red.


I attached a bad drawing of these connections on the wiring diagram as well. The yellow circles are the LEDs, with red and black being their + and - wires respectively. The box with R in it is the load resistor, which doesn't have polarity.

There may be a way to do it differently with the Magic Blinker, but if you're using the load resistor, I don't think it's necessary.

Edit: Depending on the load resistor, you may want to use the Magic Blinker... do you have a link to the resistor you're using? Everything I said should be relevant, but if you're using a small load resistor like the Custom LED "Stage I", then your front running lights may be dimmer than if you use the magic blinker. If you're using the "Stage II", they should be full brightness.

DogP

 

I'm not familiar with the Rizoma lights, so let me verify this... you're using the stock brake light, which also doubles as your rear running light, correct? The Rizomas are turn signal only on both the front and rear? And you only want the front Rizomas to double as running lights?

Yes. Precisely.

Have you looked at these threads: http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2294272#post2294272 and http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148648 ?

The first one has some info from when I installed two wire front turn signals on my 03 with integrated rear lights. The second shows a couple other methods for getting running lights on the front.

Attached is the relevant section of the wiring diagram from the 06 service manual. If it were me, here's how I would try:

Connect load resistor between green and black, and between red and black on the turn signal connectors (at either the front or rear). That should make the flasher happy. Then connect the rear LED signal like normal (- to black, + to green/red). On the front, connect the LED signal with + to blue and - to green/red.


I attached a bad drawing of these connections on the wiring diagram as well. The yellow circles are the LEDs, with red and black being their + and - wires respectively. The box with R in it is the load resistor, which doesn't have polarity.

There may be a way to do it differently with the Magic Blinker, but if you're using the load resistor, I don't think it's necessary.

Edit: Depending on the load resistor, you may want to use the Magic Blinker... do you have a link to the resistor you're using? Everything I said should be relevant, but if you're using a small load resistor like the Custom LED "Stage I", then your front running lights may be dimmer than if you use the magic blinker. If you're using the "Stage II", they should be full brightness.

DogP

I don't have any info on the load resistors. They came with the LEDs. Said use one for a 10W system and two for a 21W system (my bike is 21W per owner's manual).

And I had seen the 2 wire to 3 wire thread but opted to buy the Magic Blinkers just because they seemed simple (surprise).

The only way I've wired it that gets my desired effect (running lights on full bright, flash when turn signal hit) is when I wire the power lead of the LED to the running light off the harness and the ground of the LED to the turn signal off the harness and with a single resistor.

Didn't want to leave it hooked up like this though because I don't want to damage the LEDs.

 

Simple solution I did to make my marker lights on the front of my r1 act as turn signals. Run the lights through a relay for each side with the running light power on the normal closed side then run the turn signal power to the coil on the relay so when you turn on your signals it turns off the light. If this is still kind if confusing I can draw up a diagram and post it. Hope this helps


Sent from my Motorcycle iPhone app

 

You can get 2 SPDT realys at an auto store and do this.

Leds are 194 A hyper bright from auto zone and the holders are from PEP Boys help section.
Black RTV high temp silicone.
Here is how I wired my relay SPDT.
#86 to ground on bike and all blinkers.
#85 to green or brown (Left or Right flasher 12V)
#30 to blue ( 12v for running lights)
#87a to Leds In the head lights 12v+ (Euro light blinkers OR side flush mounts to use as running and flashers) YELLOW
#87 to side blinkers and rear view mirrors (12v on when you hit turn signal)
No blinkers the Euro lights are on in the head lights.
When I hit the right blikers to turn on, The headlight blinker turns off and the top and the side factory blinker turns on.

Shameless promotion:lmao

 

Why are you using resistors with the Magic Blinker and new relay? You don't need the resistors with the new relay from CustomLED.


Sent from my Motorcycle iPhone app

 

Honestly, I'd forget about the Magic Blinker... you said you got it to work wiring it one way, and there's really no way for you to damage the LEDs. If you hook the LEDs up backwards, they don't light (no damage)... if you hook them up and they do light, you're not going to damage them since they're rated for 12V, and you only have 12V to give.

After re-reading what you typed, I think you did exactly what I was describing. The resistor is hooked up between turn and ground, the front signal is hooked up between running and turn, and the rear signal is hooked up normally.

I've been running mine like that for several months with no problems, and if you read my other post, I give a technical description of why it works.

DogP

 

Well gents... thanks for all your help but I snagged a multimeter from work and figured out what the hell was going on today.

Problem was with these:

that I picked up from FlynCycle. They plug into the stock wiring harness which was sweet. What would be really sweet though is if they built them to standard wiring protocol. I went through the original install ASSUMING red was power, black was ground, black/white was blinker but no, that would've been too easy.

They switched the power and ground wires so my RED IS GROUND and BLACK IS POWER :nono

Hooked up the magic blinkers and they work as advertised (only they're out of sync with the rear blinkers which is kind of annoying)

Thanks again for all the help fellas.

/thread